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    Default Elite-dominance model: E1b1b and Semites

    Semitic languages such as Hebrew, Arabic and Amharic are categorized under the Afroasiatic language family. This means that Arabic and Hebrew languages derive from the same language with Berber, Chadic, Cushitic, Egyptian, Amharic and Omotic languages of Afro-Asiatic language family in North Africa. Today, we see that the most of Afroasiatic people are of E1b1b haplogroup (especially the lineages of V12, V32, M81). And we see a great variety of E1b lineages among both Semitic and Afroasiatic people whereas only FGC11 lineage of J1 is present among Afroasiatic Semitic people. And it is also impossible to see J1 haplogroup among several Afroasiatic people such as Berberis etc. According to the theory, Afroasiatic languages spread to Asia via E1b haplogroup, not J1 haplogroup. It is historically known that a ruling elite class of Afro-Asiatic people (Akkadians, Assyrians etc) also invaded the north of Mesopotamia and brought their Afroasiatic languages to the central and northern parts of Mesopotamia during the period of Akkadians and Babylonians. Elite dominance model of E1b1 might be supposed for Akkadians, Assyrians and Babylonians. In this sense, it might be theorized that Sumerian was the main language of the ancient Mesopotamians before Afroasiatic E1b overwhelmed Mesopotamia (elite dominance model).

    Quite controversial and IMO an unacademic site (with no offense to the owner), but still worthy of looking at this model especially since E1b1b is associated with AfroAsiatic language dispersal. Tell me about your thoughts please. Thanks!

    Source: https://www.haplogroups.org/haplogro...is-not-semitic

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    Haplogroup E is just like it's sisterclade D, most likely Eurasian in origin, but spread early on to Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Haplogroup E is just like it's sisterclade D, most likely Eurasian in origin, but spread early on to Africa.
    Even the strictly black African clades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Even the strictly black African clades?
    Yes. Haplogroups F and C def have an Eurasian origin, same with D. DE* has also been found in Asian men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Even the strictly black African clades?
    "black" yes, there's seems to be evidence that early modern humans were all dark skinned, and later mutated to have light skin (to adapt their environment)
    If and when these homosapiens re-entered africa they were dark skinned, and found archaic hominids and breed with them, just like HS mixed with neanderthals and denisovans. This needs more evidence but it seems likely to me.

    https://www.livescience.com/42838-eu...sequenced.html
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/21/285734

    Edit: "black" or in this case "dark skinned" isn't synonymous with the term negroid, but it's the early ancestor.
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