Descriptions of Ancient Dacians and Thracians

[Bosniensis]

Ovid, in his "The Sorrowful" speaks about the Geto-Dacians in the following words:

* You can see them on horseback, riding in midroad.
* Among them you won't find anyone who does not carry a quiver, bow and arrows whose spikes are yellow with the viper's poison.
* Their voices are hoarse, their faces wild and they look like the most genuine embodiment of Mars.
* They have never had their hair or beard cut.
* Their right hand is always ready to thrust the knife that they have fastened to their hip. In 547 BC Cyrus' Persians defeated the Thracian Lydian kingdom in Asia Minor, extending their sovereignty as far to the northwest as the southern shore of the Sea of Marmara.

In the course of history, the Carpatho-Danubian people spread around the core of the natural fortress made by the Carpathians, mountains difficult to pass or climb, where gold, silver and salt were in abundance.

The Carpatho-Danubians spread about the whole Central Europe, from the Austrian Alps and from the Bavarian Plain as far as the tablelands of the Eastern Galicia and the steppe of Dobrogea, reaching the so-called meridional (southern) Russia; from the Nistru (Dniester) as far as Kuban (see the Cimmerian Thracians), Asia Minor - the Thracian (Aegean) Sea Islands were first inhabited by the Pelasgian-Thracian-Aryan "Carpatho-Danubians" - and reaching Northern Africa (see the Garamantes).

Along the river Marita, there used to live the Odrisi-Thracians, their name being mentioned until as late as the 3rd century BC. Similarly, along the river Struma there lived the Medes, a tribe from which Spartacus descended, the one who shook and frightened Rome. Born around the year 113 BC, enrolled in the Roman army, he took the liberty of a "short holiday" on his own account, got caught and was then turned into a gladiator-slave.

Educated at the Capua school, excellently trained and skilled and with a Thracian heart pounding in his chest, he would not die in the ring (arena) to the satisfaction of "the masters", and escaped together with other 70 fellow prisoners, building himself a small army with which he managed to shake the Roman Empire.

It was fear that forced the Romans, several times defeated by the army of the Thracian Spartacus, to send Marcus Licinius Crassus and Pompei (brought from Spain especially for this) against him. Defeated by a huge army, Spartacus dies heroically, in 71BC, near Silar, facing his death with laughter, in the old Dacian tradition.

It so happens that history sometimes changes the meaning of certain symbols: the name of our Thracian hero was taken by the Socialist Germans who, after the First World War, founded "Spartacus' League/Alliance" (Spartakusbund). This alliance, led by Rosa Luxemburg and Carol Liebknecht were to change "Spartacus' League" into the German Communist Party on December 30, 1918. The irony of fate! Once more, the Germans, after a few years, came up with a new idea; that of stealing the Symbol of Eternal Life, the Pelasgian Swastika, and turned it into the most extremist symbol of intolerance and cruelty, the emblem of those who were to be held responsible for mass martyrdom.

Thus, such old symbols - used and abused - may lose their original value; this happened to the old Carpatho-Danubian Hittite emblem of the two-headed eagle. First taken by Byzantium, then by the Huns on founding the Austro-Hungarian Empire, etc. etc., only to be nowadays taken over by the new Russia.

Let us not forget the Odrisi people - a Thracian tribe settled in the Rodopi Mountains - who rose in arms against the Roman Empire in 26AD.

[Bosniensis]

In the "Iliad", Homer, speaking of the Thracians, mentioned that "their golden shields made their armies shine," and that "their treasures were so precious that Priam (king of the Thracian Troy) could take back the head of his dead son from the hands of the Greeks only after offering the latter the famous Golden Thracian Cup."

All the great civilizations flourished along the valleys of the great rivers and especially at their rivermouths: the Egyptian civilization, on the Nile, the Mesopotamian one, between the Tigris and the Euphrates, the Indian one on the Indus and the Gange, the Chinese civilization on the Yellow River, and the European one, with or without the consent of the "great professors of history and archaeology", on the Danube's valley, and especially on its delta. This is the real cradle of the Proto-European civilization - the old precincts of the Carpathians and of the Danube. In the ancient days it was here that the Greeks would come looking for the Golden Wool and Danubian agricultural riches. In these specific places the famous Golden Age flourished, with its Heroes' Cemetery at the rivermouth of the Danube and the Gods' Dwelling Place in the fortress of the Koga-Ion.

Take a look at the map and you will see the splendor of this country, where the springs find their way out of the mountains and follow their fan-shaped course to the Danube, along quiet valleys and gently-sloping hills, propitious for agriculture and grazing. From high above, this ellipse-shaped hydrographic network looks like the Egg of Genesis. These mountains of salt without which man's life and the raising of cattle simply cannot be imagined represented in those ancient times a bigger wealth than gold; and indeed maybe it was the most valuable wealth to own for the ancient people. As an old Dacian fairy tale has it, nothing is more precious than "the salt in one's food."

The richness of the soil and of the subsoil made the Thracian space be coveted by the neighboring tribes and peoples. And indeed, it was this Eldorado of antiquity that those neighbors wished for. "The European invaders came and are still coming from the east." The migrations from the south to the north were caused not only by economic reasons but also by the changes in the climate and in the flora and fauna; as J.C.Dragan wrote "any tree which bears fruit and seeds, seeks to spread them around;" similarly, our Dacian-Thracian people, through prolific tribes, yielded fruits and spread either around its own territory, migrating as far as Asia or crossed the narrows of Bosporus and of Dardanelles, reaching Anatolia; this is how the Ramantes-Dardans built the fortress Troy, and the Phrygians made up a branch later called Phrygia; the Mysians were a small branch of the Moesian people, living south of the Danube; the Messapians, the Lapigians and the Veneti, from eastern Italy were related to the Dalmatian and Pannonian Thraco-Illyrians (where the state Rhama lay until the arrival of the Hungarians) the extension of the Carpatho-Danubian people looks very much like an atomic explosion, with its epicenter on their homeland, in The Country of the Sun, in the Aryan Pre-Sanskrit Daksha. Our ancestors then settle along the river Hipanis (the Bug) and the Borystene (Nipru or the Dnieper). The Cimmerian people were herded on to the south by the Scythians, but the latter would not merge with the Great Thracian population, leaving behind only ... a name. The Thracians who spread as far to the west as the Atlantic Ocean reached the Valley of the Vistula too, and founded fortresses like Getidava; other branches, like that of the Etruscans and the Veneti were to head for the valley of the Padus. They conquered the Italian Peninsula at least four times, the last time under the Bright Ramantes Aeneas, who hailed from around Oltina (today Dobrogea), or according to Homer and Virgil, from Troy. Demosthenes and Iphycrates considered it a great honor that their mothers were of Thracian descent; the Greeks "borrowed" our gods and had only their names changed, tasting to the full of the Geto-Dacian myths and beliefs.

[Dick]

I found a pic of an ancient Dacian

[Bosniensis]

I found a pic of an ancient Dacian

Yeah it seems that traditional clothing is there, however we know how they actually looked from prahistory:

[Dick]

Yeah it seems that traditional clothing is there, however we know how they actually looked from prahistory:

I read somewhere a long time ago that the Romans considered them to be of Celto-Thracian stock or that may have been the Scordisci

[Bosniensis]

I read somewhere a long time ago that the Romans considered them to be of Celto-Thracian stock or that may have been the Scordisci

Yes after 3rd century A.D. Thracians and Dacians mixed with

1. Celts
2. Illyrians
3. Scythians (Turko-Slavs)

That might be why Triballi (as an exonim for Serbs) has been explained:

The Triballi were a Thracian tribe that received influences from Celts, Scythians and Illyrians. -- Byzantine Historian.

Now with Gedmatch Autosomal breakdown it actually have a lot of sense.

[Blondie]

3. Scythians (Turko-Slavs)

What? Scythians were blonde blue eyed iranic peoples, aryans.

[Joso]

What? Scythians were blonde blue eyed iranic peoples, aryans.

true, they looked like the people of the Baltic countries probably

[Carpatz]