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Thread: Which South American Country has higher Percentage of Overall Spanish Ancestry: Argentina or Chile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aida View Post
    In Chile there are more mestizos than in Argentina, about 65.0% of the population is mestizo (I add the 4 million different indigenous peoples since they have European components), 26.0% is white and 9.0% is black. And there is less European immigration, 32% of total immigration comes from Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlko2 View Post
    I think it must be Chile.

    Argentina’s population make up is mainly from recent European immigration (XIX and XX century), of which the majority were Italians, so there must be still some pure Italians and to a lesser extent Germans, Russians and other communities that are less likely to outmarry like Armenians, Lebanese, Jews, of which Argentina has plenty.

    Thus, the European and non-Spanish background is very recent in terms of population’s background, increasing the chances of people that are still unmixed with other ethnicities.

    Chile’s population seem to be descended mainly from colonial times, where the Spanish/Amerindian mix dominated by far. Revent immigration background is much more limited than in Argentina, and even in the elite you’ll find some Spanish surname in the family tree.
    LOL, most of the Euro ancestry in Argentina, including the recent immigrants, is Italian AND Spanish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aida View Post
    In Chile there are more mestizos than in Argentina, about 65.0% of the population is mestizo (I add the 4 million different indigenous peoples since they have European components), 26.0% is white and 9.0% is black. And there is less European immigration, 32% of total immigration comes from Europe.
    True, but Chile is not an ordinary plain mestizo country, but a mostly harnizo/castizo country. And being that most of its Euro ancestry is Spanish by far, its overall Spanish ancestry must be very considerable and comparable to that of Argentina.
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    Talking about European ancestry in Argentina mentioning Germans and not mentioning Spanish anywhere is as much absurd as talking about Euro ancestry in United States, and mentioning Germans, and then French, Italian, etc... and not mentioning British/Irish anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    LOL, most of the Euro ancestry in Argentina, including the recent immigrants, is Italian AND Spanish.
    You didn’t understand what I meant. I was refering to the non-Spanish component in Argentina being larger than Chile’s because of the mass influx non-Spanish immigration. Of course the Spanish were second to the Italians on importance, added to the fact that the colonial population was of Spanish origin.

    So, despite the massive influx of Spaniards and the native colonial population, Argentina is still less Spanish than Chile because of the mass influx of other ethnic groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlko2 View Post
    You didn’t understand what I meant. I was refering to the non-Spanish component in Argentina being larger than Chile’s because of the mass influx non-Spanish immigration. Of course the Spanish were second to the Italians on importance, added to the fact that the colonial population was of Spanish origin.

    So, despite the massive influx of Spaniards and the native colonial population, Argentina is still less Spanish than Chile because of the mass influx of other ethnic groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
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    Not an expert, I’m an outsider when it comes to these countries, but I see that Argentina was the most voted. Wonder why?? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlko2 View Post
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    Not an expert, I’m an outsider when it comes to these countries, but I see that Argentina was the most voted. Wonder why?? Lol
    I voted in the same level.

    Because they recived a similar amount of spanish immigrants judging their populations.
    I know both countries.
    And I know that Chile recived far less immigrants than Argentina, including spanish immigration.
    Argentina, as Aida showed us recived the second immigration current, follwing the italian, and if we add the colonial population the difference is not particularly important.

    Do you really think that an argentinian of spanish ancestry is atypical????

    I see people who think that also bolivians and guatemalans have more overall % spanish ancestry than Argentina... and that Argentina is the country which have less % of all the rest of the countries of Latin America... should I take that thought seriously????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    I voted in the same level.

    Because they recived a similar amount of spanish immigrants judging their populations.
    I know both countries.
    And I know that Chile recived far less immigrants than Argentina, including spanish immigration.
    Argentina, as Aida showed us recived the second immigration current, follwing the italian, and if we add the colonial population the difference is not particularly important.

    Do you really think that an argentinian of spanish ancestry is atypical????

    I see people who think that also bolivians and guatemalans have more overall % spanish ancestry than Argentina... and that Argentina is the country which have less % of all the rest of the countries of Latin America... should I take that thought seriously????
    I can be wrong, I repeat that I’m not an expert. I just put it this way:

    85% of Argentinians have at least one Spanish ancestor: there still are some unmixed ethnic groups, maybe some Italians, Armenians, Lebanese: especially the older generations that are still alive, and are first/second generation Argentines.

    98-99% of Chileans have at least one Spanish ancestor: except maybe for some 1st or 2nd generation immigrant/settler.

    I can be wrong, but I’ve just thought it could perfectly match both populations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlko2 View Post
    I can be wrong, I repeat that I’m not an expert. I just put it this way:

    85% of Argentinians have at least one Spanish ancestor: there still are some unmixed ethnic groups, maybe some Italians, Armenians, Lebanese: especially the older generations that are still alive, and are first/second generation Argentines.

    98-99% of Chileans have at least one Spanish ancestor: except maybe for some 1st or 2nd generation immigrant/settler.

    I can be wrong, but I’ve just thought it could perfectly match both populations!
    No friend.
    Indeed I know that you know quite about Argentina especially this subject.
    Indeed you know that a lot of armenians, middle-easterns, jews, etc., settled here.
    Around the world and especially (which is absurd) inner Latin-America, there are many people that think this country is a copy-carbon of Italy... and it's a lot more complicate and diverse than that.
    One time a person in another country argued me saying that Argentina was conquered by italians..
    And that person was universitary... omg... how didn't that person know that Italy never had territories in this continent... (?)
    So, for that reason I made the question if you think that an argentinian spanish-descendant is atypical it wasn't because I thought that you think that... because you know quite about this subject, but it was really a rhetorical question because as I said some people really think that...
    About the comparison with Chile is in my opinion is a little tricky in another way.
    Probably in Chile there are more people who have spanish DNA in any side, but I think that probably in Argentina is more easy to find people who are almost of spanish ancestry (more than 80% of the DNA) but I am not sure...

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