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    TAKE TWO MORE MINUTES IF YOU WANT AND LOOK HERE FOR SOME EXTRAS WITH CROWDS
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    Mostly Alpines and Dinarids. Few Meds among them.

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    http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2013/11/blog-post_22.html

    38% Mediterraneans
    36% Alpines
    2
    0% Dinarics
    5% Cromagnoids
    1% Other

    More Meds than Dinarics

    More Meds than Alpines

    More Dinarics and Alpines together than Meds
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    Possibly more north and west shifted than average. Helenass gonna be mad. Btw where did you find all these? Did you check backgrounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2013/11/blog-post_22.html

    38% Mediterraneans
    36% Alpines
    2
    0% Dinarics
    5% Cromagnoids
    1% Other

    More Meds than Dinarics

    More Meds than Alpines

    More Dinarics and Alpines together than Meds
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2013/11/blog-post_22.html

    38% Mediterraneans
    36% Alpines
    2
    0% Dinarics
    5% Cromagnoids
    1% Other

    More Meds than Dinarics

    More Meds than Alpines

    More Dinarics and Alpines together than Meds
    The material he used was sent by me,just like the one about Sfakiots,I was new and naive back then and didn't know about his agenda,all the material is here now,let's see what others think ,this blog's admin who evidently and consciously manipulates original texts is not to be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    Possibly more north and west shifted than average. Helenass gonna be mad. Btw where did you find all these? Did you check backgrounds?



    lol
    Genetically all Tsakonian results i have seen posted on Apricity were rather South shifted for Mainland Greece
    not extremely but reasonably.

    Even Sikeliot says they are among the Mainland Greeks closest to Sicilians or South Italians
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    Possibly more north and west shifted than average. Helenass gonna be mad. Btw where did you find all these? Did you check backgrounds?

    lol
    It's been 5 years so I don't remember much, I had them all put in a video uploaded here but none paid attention so I extracted them again and rearranged them in pics,as far as I remember I used tsakonian fb pages material&their members profile while verifying they are from tsakonian village,some screenshots from documentaries and google images.I'm quite a perfectionist so the possibility of errors in my threads is small

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Genetically all Tsakonian results i have seen posted on Apricity were rather South shifted for Mainland Greece
    not extremely but reasonably.

    Even Sikeliot says they are among the Mainland Greeks closest to Sicilians or South Italians
    Many of them look like lighter Maniots or Cretans, others look Central European. I doubt anyone found many Tsakonian dna results but, in any case, genotype doesn't exactly equal phenotype.
    Also gedmatch is bound to go nuts with isolated groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    Many of them look like lighter Maniots or Cretans,
    Yeah maybe but being light or not doesn show where you plot
    Calabrians also often look lighter than their genetics say

    And i doubt Tsakonian plot closer to Austrians or North Balkanians than to South Italian

    Tsakonian

    1 Greek_Central 3.39
    2 Italian_Abruzzo 3.7
    3 Ashkenazy_Jew 4.27
    4 Italian_Sicilian 5.47
    5 Greek_Thessaly 7.36

    6 Albanian 7.99
    7 Sephardic_Jew 9.23
    8 Kosovar 9.26
    9 Italian_Tuscan 9.76
    10 Bulgarian 13.99
    11 Macedonian 14.4
    12 Italian_Bergamo 15.73
    13 Turkish 15.87
    14 Romanian 16.28
    15 Montenegrin 17.06
    16 Cypriot 17.14
    17 Turkish_Aydin 17.66
    18 Turkish_Kayseri 18.48
    19 Serbian 19.6
    20 Balkar 20.86



    others look Central European
    others look Southern European

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ite-photo-quot

    genotype doesn't exactly equal phenotype..
    Yes it doesn't
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Tsakonian

    1 Greek_Central 3.39
    2 Italian_Abruzzo 3.7
    3 Ashkenazy_Jew 4.27
    4 Italian_Sicilian 5.47
    5 Greek_Thessaly 7.36

    6 Albanian 7.99
    7 Sephardic_Jew 9.23
    8 Kosovar 9.26
    9 Italian_Tuscan 9.76
    10 Bulgarian 13.99
    11 Macedonian 14.4
    12 Italian_Bergamo 15.73
    13 Turkish 15.87
    14 Romanian 16.28
    15 Montenegrin 17.06
    16 Cypriot 17.14
    17 Turkish_Aydin 17.66
    18 Turkish_Kayseri 18.48
    19 Serbian 19.6
    20 Balkar 20.86
    Pretty sure that's northwest of Mani, southwest of most mainland.

    It was also obvious that they drift towards a different direction than Mani/islands.


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