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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    LM genetics report. LOM was a typo.
    What did you use for Raw Data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    Of course not. You wrote bullshit on purpose?

    Bulgaria,51.6
    Roma_BH,8
    GR_Cyclades,3.6
    Macedonia_FYROM,3.4
    South_Romania,2.6
    GR_Ipeiros,2.4
    GR_Eubea,2
    Albanians_FYROM,1.6
    Montenegro,1.6
    IT_Emilia-Romagna,1.2
    IT_Lombardia,1
    GR_Thrace,0.8
    Punjabi_Khatri,0.8
    Circassians,0.6
    GR_Thessaly,0.6
    IQ_Shabak,0.6
    Kharia,0.6
    Tajik_AFG,0.6
    Brahmin_UP,0.4
    Greek_Azov,0.4
    Gujarati_D,0.4

    IT_Lazio,0.4
    IT_Tuscany,0.4
    Jatt_Pahari,0.4
    Kurd_Sulajmanijja_IQ,0.4
    [B]Meena,0.4
    Muslim_UP,0.4
    Nihali,0.4
    Sakkili,0.4[/B
    ]
    Serbia,0.4
    South_Albania,0.4
    Tajik_Iskashim,0.4
    Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin,0.4
    Turkmen,0.4
    Uzbek,0.4
    Arain_Punjabi,0.2
    [B]Asur,0.2[/B
    ]
    Baining,0.2
    Balkar,0.2
    Baloch_IR,0.2
    Bengali_1000genomes,0.2
    Bhunjia,0.2
    Bihari_Brahmin,0.2

    Bosniaks,0.2
    Chechens,0.2
    Chitrali_PAK,0.2
    Dhurwa,0.2

    Georgia_East,0.2
    GR_Peloponese,0.2
    Hazara_AFG,0.2
    Iranian_Kerman,0.2
    Irula,0.2
    Jammu_Brahmin,0.2
    Jatt_Haryana,0.2
    Jatt_Sikh,0.2

    Kabardinians,0.2
    Kannadi,0.2
    Kapu,0.2
    Kashmiri_Pandit,0.2

    Kumyk,0.2
    Kusunda_Nepal,0.2
    Lambadi,0.2
    Madiga,0.2
    Mumbai_Jew,0.2

    Nasioi,0.2
    Osettians,0.2
    Pashtun_AFG,0.2
    Punjabi_1000genomes,0.2
    Punjabi_IND,0.2
    Punjabi_PAK,0.2
    Santhal,0.2

    Sathmarer_Schwaben,0.2
    Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu,0.2
    Scheduled_Caste_UP,0.2

    Tajik,0.2
    Tamil_Ceylon,0.2
    Thakur,0.2
    Tharus,0.2

    Tibetan,0.2
    TR_East,0.2
    Uttaranchal_Brahmin,0.2
    Uyghur,0.2
    Velamas,0.2



    nMonte3 with penalization=0 option (better for deeper / older / distant admixtures)

    "distance%=0.6857"

    Bulgaria,31.2
    GR_Ipeiros,15.6
    GR_Cyclades,14.6
    Muslim_UP,9
    Meghawal,8

    IT_Lombardia,7.8
    Ukraine_Volhyn,6.4
    Chechens,5.4
    Chitrali_PAK,0.8
    Japanese,0.6
    Papuan_Highland,0.4
    Gujarati_D,0.2


    In single distances he was too diluted to be considered pure Roma. I have academic samples form Bosnia-Hercegovina. They have on average 10-15% more South-Asian.
    because it said he was 8% roma when he's really 56%

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenTylerAerosmith View Post
    because it said he was 8% roma when he's really 56%
    Roma isn't genetic component. There are highly mixed and variable. I have three Roma from Bosnia which makes average for them .There are quite abundant in South Asian component and SCA (about two time smore thna Mortimer level for both).

    So part Romani with about 11% SA and 6% SCA like Mortimer is much below their level.

    It is hard to make one estimate for Roma, as they live in different countries. And they are mixed with different Euro nations so they are quite different form each other.

    BTW If someone will use some mixed Romani from Gedmatch and make average from them, then yes Mortimer will be much more Romani, but only because average was shitty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    Roma isn't genetic component. There are highly mixed and variable. I have three Roma from Bosnia which makes average for them .There are quite abundant in South Asian component and SCA (about two time smore thna Mortimer level for both).

    So part Romani with about 11% SA and 6% SCA like Mortimer is much below their level.

    It is hard to make one estimate for Roma, as they live in different countries. And they are mixed with different Euro nations so they are quite different form each other.

    BTW If someone will use some mixed Romani from Gedmatch and make average from them, then yes Mortimer will be much more Romani, but only because average was shitty...
    makes sense

    why does he cluster with balkans slavs though if he is 15-20% south asian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    What did you use for Raw Data?
    I use 23andme and send a screenshot of my K36 from gedmatch. On gedmatch i use 23andme raw data.
    My AncestryDNA autosomal results [yes it is a link click on it]
    then you must be some kind of wizzard who has lightning in his eyes - Balkanforum user Cobra about Mortimer
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenTylerAerosmith View Post
    makes sense

    why does he cluster with balkans slavs though if he is 15-20% south asian?
    As I said earlier Romani are mixed with host populations. In his case mostly Balkan. And this admix is in majority for him. So in single distances program seek closest pop with majority of similar ancestry, not minority.

    I saw in MDLP spreadsheets academic Romani from other countries like Slovakia or Bulgaria. Maybe there will be more similar to Mortimer. I don't know from what source Vadim took them as only he has them. I have only those from Pagani paper which were freely available.
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