POLL -Where does Zeus fit better :- Natufian or Balkanian?

[Tauromachos]

They don't have beards plus not old enough
None talked about majorities and minorities Greece just had everything from time to time
Plus the possibilities of finding a pure steppe must be close to zero as they mixed with locals,wasn't

Yes because the Greeks descended mostly from locals and the Steppe came from some foreigners who assimilated
and mixed in

Same as today when some Brits or even Russians come to live in Greece learn the language and marry locals
wether as man or as women it doesn't mean that Greeks themselves are Brits or Russians but of course the children
will be Greek and their genes carry on in the Greek genepool

the post dorian sample in crete modelled as half ukrainian or something?

Never heard about this

[nightrider+]

wasn't the post dorian sample in crete modelled as half ukrainian or something?

It plotted significantly north of Mycenaeans but was low quality, not enough SNPs or contaminated, not sure.

[Dorian]

Yes because the Greeks descended mostly from locals and the Steppe came from some foreigners who assimilated
and mixed in

Same as today when some Brits or even Russians come to live in Greece learn the language and marry locals
wether as man or as women it doesn't mean that Greeks themselves are Brits or Russians but of course the children
will be Greek and their genes carry on in the Greek genepool



Never heard about this

define foreigners(we can see at this chart that these nordics were many)what tribe are you talking about?
now if that is true and Greeks mixed with other tribes with no problem(no matter if IE invasion or return of heraklides who assimilated nothern elements or whatever),where did you find the right to define who's a real greek or foreigner if greeks themselves didn't mind assimilating other tribes?are you or hellenas the higher power who decides?
what's your theory of ie common languages origins?
were some athenian-thracian mixes greeks?(can't remember their names)
what were pelasgians-minoans-cycladites-leleges etc?according to your theory of foreigners we must not consider them real greeks unless you have an alternative theory where all these were greeks too.
Greeks also mixed with a levantine-caucasus-like population in Cyprus too,foreigners I guess?
Or you don't care about them since they fit your med-dark narrative?
What about Greeks assimilating Asia Minor natives since ancient years(although christianism made even more impact on this)?
Excluding the bastard ancient greeks of thessaly,peloponnese etc(pelasgians leleges),the bastard greeks of islands(minoans cycladites),asian minor,cypriots,where were the real pure greeks and from where did they come from?

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[Tauromachos]

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This^

[Bosniensis]

Looks Anatolian in these statues imo. Thraco-Phrygian.

Probably passes better in Balkans than Levant, but passes as both.

Thraco-Phrygians are Vlachs

Those people are South Slavs.

[Catarinense1998]

Olympioid.

[Aspar]

Looks very Balkan... nothing MENA
Dinaric element is very visible... Dinaro-Med

[Token]

Yes because the Greeks descended mostly from locals and the Steppe came from some foreigners who assimilated
and mixed in

Same as today when some Brits or even Russians come to live in Greece learn the language and marry locals
wether as man or as women it doesn't mean that Greeks themselves are Brits or Russians but of course the children
will be Greek and their genes carry on in the Greek genepool.

Wishful thinking.

[Tauromachos]

Wishful thinking.

Wishful thinking^

"Wake up Mediterranean and Medish Greeks, Northerners steal your ancestors and present them as Scandinavian Nordic invaders coming from Ukraine-Russian steppes. As for modern Greeks, they propagate they are dark skinned gypsies and hellenized natives. Nordicism is one of Greece's worst enemies!
"