North Africans AND Sicilians/Maltese may have more Arab ancestry than the Lebanese!

**Leto** · 12-14-2018, 08:39 PM

A real Saudi. Notice the distance to the 'Saudi' reference

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 47.27
2 Caucasus 31.4
3 Atlantic_Med 6.24
4 Gedrosia 5.38
5 East_African 4.38
6 Northwest_African 3.97
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Southeast_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 5.26
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Yemenese (Behar) 16.38
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.89
5 Jordanians (Behar) 20.33
6 Egyptans (Behar) 20.92
7 Syrians (Behar) 21.21
8 Samaritians (Behar) 21.99
9 Saudis (Behar) 22.21
10 Lebanese (Behar) 25.56
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 28.46
12 Druze (HGDP) 28.97
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.29
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.56
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 34.9
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.3
17 Cypriots (Behar) 35.43
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 35.59
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.09
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 36.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 44.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.24
2 52.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.7% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.96
3 64.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 35.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.98
4 89.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.25
5 89.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.28
6 89% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 11% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.29
7 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.4
8 83.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.43
9 89.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.45
10 84.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 15.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.45
11 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.46
12 90.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.52
13 87.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.52
14 85.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.6
15 53.6% Saudis (Behar) + 46.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.77
16 56.8% Saudis (Behar) + 43.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.92
17 84.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4
18 84.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.02
19 73.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.27
20 73.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.28

**Aren** · 12-14-2018, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

I'm curious to see your point of view then, and why Saudis and their Southwest Asian are a bad fit for "arab".

Is every % Northern Euro that you score in this particular calculator indicator of Baltic admixture in you?

**Damião de Góis** · 12-14-2018, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Aren

Is every % Northern Euro that you score in this particular calculator indicator of Baltic admixture in you?

A fair point. But looking at the Saudi sample might at least give some clues in my opinion.

**zzddss** · 01-08-2019, 09:31 PM

i'm 100% arabian

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 9.73
2 Yemenite_Jewish 18.87
3 Bedouin 22.55
4 Egyptian 27.01
5 Palestinian 27.62
6 Jordanian 29.2
7 Syrian 31.09
8 Samaritan 31.37
9 Lebanese_Christian 33.13
10 Lebanese_Muslim 34.19
11 Libyan_Jewish 34.78
12 Tunisian_Jewish 35.16
13 Lebanese_Druze 35.4
14 Kurdish_Jewish 36.41
15 Tunisian 36.58
16 Iranian_Jewish 36.83
17 Algerian 37.03
18 Moroccan 37.27
19 Cyprian 37.63
20 Sephardic_Jewish 37.9

**rein** · 01-08-2019, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by zzddss

i'm 100% arabian

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 9.73
2 Yemenite_Jewish 18.87
3 Bedouin 22.55
4 Egyptian 27.01
5 Palestinian 27.62
6 Jordanian 29.2
7 Syrian 31.09
8 Samaritan 31.37
9 Lebanese_Christian 33.13
10 Lebanese_Muslim 34.19
11 Libyan_Jewish 34.78
12 Tunisian_Jewish 35.16
13 Lebanese_Druze 35.4
14 Kurdish_Jewish 36.41
15 Tunisian 36.58
16 Iranian_Jewish 36.83
17 Algerian 37.03
18 Moroccan 37.27
19 Cyprian 37.63
20 Sephardic_Jewish 37.9

Interesting. Your oracle distances are quite big though. What do you get in mixed oracle?

**zzddss** · 01-08-2019, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by rein

Interesting. Your oracle distances are quite big though. What do you get in mixed oracle?

Primary Population 100% Saudi / 0%Secondary Population

**Aren** · 01-09-2019, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by zzddss

i'm 100% arabian

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 9.73
2 Yemenite_Jewish 18.87
3 Bedouin 22.55
4 Egyptian 27.01
5 Palestinian 27.62
6 Jordanian 29.2
7 Syrian 31.09
8 Samaritan 31.37
9 Lebanese_Christian 33.13
10 Lebanese_Muslim 34.19
11 Libyan_Jewish 34.78
12 Tunisian_Jewish 35.16
13 Lebanese_Druze 35.4
14 Kurdish_Jewish 36.41
15 Tunisian 36.58
16 Iranian_Jewish 36.83
17 Algerian 37.03
18 Moroccan 37.27
19 Cyprian 37.63
20 Sephardic_Jewish 37.9

What's your tribe/affiliation? Where from in Saudi Arabia?

**Smitty** · 01-12-2019, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by FilhoV

Can you run Bergamo and Calabria and Sardinia?

Yes, a mainland Italian sample is necessary here. Otherwise, we're looking at Sicily in a vacuum. Even so, calculators...

**Mingle** · 01-12-2019, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

A real Saudi. Notice the distance to the 'Saudi' reference

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 47.27
2 Caucasus 31.4
3 Atlantic_Med 6.24
4 Gedrosia 5.38
5 East_African 4.38
6 Northwest_African 3.97
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Southeast_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 5.26
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Yemenese (Behar) 16.38
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.89
5 Jordanians (Behar) 20.33
6 Egyptans (Behar) 20.92
7 Syrians (Behar) 21.21
8 Samaritians (Behar) 21.99
9 Saudis (Behar) 22.21
10 Lebanese (Behar) 25.56
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 28.46
12 Druze (HGDP) 28.97
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.29
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.56
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 34.9
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.3
17 Cypriots (Behar) 35.43
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 35.59
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.09
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 36.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 44.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.24
2 52.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.7% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.96
3 64.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 35.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.98
4 89.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.25
5 89.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.28
6 89% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 11% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.29
7 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.4
8 83.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.43
9 89.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.45
10 84.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 15.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.45
11 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.46
12 90.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.52
13 87.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.52
14 85.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.6
15 53.6% Saudis (Behar) + 46.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.77
16 56.8% Saudis (Behar) + 43.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.92
17 84.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4
18 84.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.02
19 73.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.27
20 73.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.28

Is the Saudi reference not based on real Saudis?

**Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda** · 01-13-2019, 04:10 PM

Don't forget that Berbers and Arabians are related too.
Actually, an Arabian-like component was already found in NW Africa much before the Arabian conquest.

Here are the K36 of some Neolithic Moroccans kits + Guanches.