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Thread: North Africans AND Sicilians/Maltese may have more Arab ancestry than the Lebanese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    An older study from 2013 put Syrians in the same cluster as us Palestinians and Jordanians, so I would that they sunni Muslims have similar Arabian admixture as us. Thanks for linking me to the forum, bro. It justifies on the notion that we're Levantines with Arabian and east African admixtures. Sick and tired in seeing Zionists trying to claim that we're not natives genetically.
    So Lebanese are outliers.

    This also shows to me that all Sicilians have Phoenician input (see how Bronze Age Levant is modeled at homogenous percentages for Malta, Trapani, and Syracuse) and that even Syracusans have Arab era admixture, though probably the least on the island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    So Lebanese are outliers.

    This also shows to me that all Sicilians have Phoenician input (see how Bronze Age Levant is modeled at homogenous percentages for Malta, Trapani, and Syracuse) and that even Syracusans have Arab era admixture, though probably the least on the island.

    Poor Lebanese

    Someone has always to be the outliers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    So Lebanese are outliers.

    This also shows to me that all Sicilians have Phoenician input (see how Bronze Age Levant is modeled at homogenous percentages for Malta, Trapani, and Syracuse) and that even Syracusans have Arab era admixture, though probably the least on the island.
    Man, a lot of Italians are gonna get triggered by it. The very fact that the great genetic divide between North and Southern Italians already make many people from WN circles very nervous and crazy already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Poor Lebanese

    Someone has always to be the outliers
    I am sure they would be happy to find out they're Canaanites and not Arabs. Lebanese are always saying they're not Arabs but Phoenicians.

    What shocks me is even Syracusans have some Arabian....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Lebanon was not mostly Muslim until very recently, it was predominantly Christian, and remained so until the last few hundred years. It is likely most Lebanese Muslims don't descend from Arabs but rather from Christian Lebanese who converted relatively late to Islam and/or married Muslim Lebanese, and only a small portion of Muslim Lebanese ancestry is derived from people who converted early on.


    They did model Palestinians, see here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....alestine/page2

    Looks like 21% peninsular Arab input is average, with a range of 5-36%. So Palestinians are significantly more descended from the Arab conquest than are Lebanese, with most of the rest being indigenous Canaanite and then a minor SSA component.
    Mount Lebanon was actually majority DRUZE until the 17th century, when an intra-Druze war broke out and almost all the Druze population left for Syria. The remainers invited Maronites from an area called 'Qadisha Valley' to repopulate Mount Lebanon and be their subjects, where their numbers quickly grew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Man, a lot of Italians are gonna get triggered by it. The very fact that the great genetic divide between North and Southern Italians already make many people from WN circles very nervous and crazy already.
    What I am awaiting is when we get good Bronze Age Sicily samples and they are simply a mix of EEF, CHG, and maybe a tiny bit of WHG (like Mycenaeans) with no Levant, Berber, or Arabian whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haider View Post
    Mount Lebanon was actually majority DRUZE until the 17th century, when an intra-Druze war broke out and almost all the Druze population left for Syria. The remainers invited Maronites from an area called 'Qadisha Valley' to repopulate Mount Lebanon and be their subjects, where their numbers quickly grew.
    I know this, but what about the Muslims including the Shi3as came from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What I am awaiting is when we get good Bronze Age Sicily samples and they are simply a mix of EEF, CHG, and maybe a tiny bit of WHG (like Mycenaeans) with no Levant, Berber, or Arabian whatsoever.
    If they didn't show any Levantine admixture at that time, it could mean that the west asian admixture in Sicilians is more recent than previously thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    If they didn't show any Levantine admixture at that time, it could mean that the west asian admixture in Sicilians is more recent than previously thought.
    The samples we are getting soon should be pre-Phoenician, so if they end up lacking MENA input, we know it's recent. And I am 99% sure it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    The samples we are getting soon should be pre-Phoenician, so if they end up lacking MENA input, we know it's recent. And I am 99% sure it will be.
    Can't wait to see the results of these ancient samples, rofl.

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