Austrians to vote on Turkey's EU bid

[Magister Eckhart]

So how does this work? The French, the Germans and the Dutch (if I'm not mistaken) have said no. What will it take for them to stop bringing up the issue?

A "yes" vote. That's how it worked with the Lisbon Treaty, at least.

"Oh, you mean you vote nay? Well then, we'll just have to say this election is a fraud and vote again. Maybe then you'll vote correctly."

It's a caricature of democratic process at this point, it's just tyranny of the Europhobic, Cultural Marxist minority.

[Aviane]

Austrians voting Turkey in probably will be a good move for the Turkish and themselves but not everyone will not like it though.

I wouldn't mind either way if Turkey get's in or not.

[Magister Eckhart]

Austrians voting Turkey in probably will be a good move for the Turkish and themselves but not everyone will not like it though.

I wouldn't mind either way if Turkey get's in or not.

How could Turkey's acceptance to the EU possibly benefit anyone but Turkey?

You start calling the Turks "European" and you might as well admit Algeria, Libya, Israel, Morocco, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and all the other countries that show up when you draw a map of Europe - because that seems to be the only basis for ever considering the Turks "European".

[Svanhild]

Austrians voting Turkey in probably will be a good move for the Turkish and themselves but not everyone will not like it though.

Austria won't vote anyone in. Rejection rate of Turkey was high, is high and stays high.

[Magister Eckhart]

Austria won't vote anyone in. Rejection rate of Turkey was high, is high and stays high.

Let's hope your optimism is right.

Remember what happened with the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland. Rejection rate was high and stayed high right up until the EU forced a second vote because they didn't like the outcome of the first.

These votes are shows - they only mean anything if they go the way the powers-that-be want them to go, and the Political Class of Europe will continue to force Mohammedanism and coloured domination down European throats for as long as they are in power.

[Aces High]

I find it strange that the Austrian government will allow the people to vote on the issue.
They normally steam roll the policies through without much concern for the Indigenous people of Europe.

I noticed recently that the Iclandic people were allowed to vote on wether British and Dutch banks could force them to pay back the enormous debt that (private) banks ran up on the Iclandic populations behalf and they voted no.

Maybe the winds of change are starting to slowly blow through Europe...lets hope so.

[Agrippa]

I find it strange that the Austrian government will allow the people to vote on the issue.
They normally steam roll the policies through without much concern for the Indigenous people of Europe.

First of all it is not for sure yet and even if it happens, we don't know how important it will be.

I'm in doubt about the whole thing.

But I understand why even the mainstream parties brought it up, and it is primarily because they perfectly know that the VAST MAJORITY of Austrians, unless they are radical Leftists and Libertarians, of both there are not too many in the whole population, or are Turks and Muslims themselves, is against the integration of Turkey into the European Union.

So whoever plays that card, might win some votes, even if just trying - in a weak and hypocritical way actually - to bring that issue forward.

After all, there is a coalition of the major (pseudo-conservative and left-liberal modern Social Democrats) parties in Europe and this is always problematic for the typical manipulation of the public in the current Western "Democracy", with the tweedledee-tweedledum swing votes, which changes nothing and keeps the mainstream on top.

Because of that, especially the right-populist FPÖ is growing again, already at the 2nd place in some polls.

So the major parties try to play that card as well, using the general sentiment and making up a false issue, which I doubt they will really bring forward or will change too much, but let's see.

Fortunately pressures are coming from the right AND social side in Austria more often and stronger than in various other countries and the major parties sometimes try to accomodate to that.

This changes little and is a hinderance to a more radical but necessary change, but still better than people getting fed with the "politically correct" crap, worse even, like in most of Germany or many other countries.

Bad enough in Austria, horrible actually, but there are worse places in this respect.

Yet one has to understand that this is a tactical issue, since the corrupted politicians obviously don't really care at all for the future of our people and Europe, since they are mostly puppets of the Plutocracy, some just less brainwashed and less restrained than others or pushed into another direction.