Your Haplogroups Compared to your known Ancestry, Do they align or not?

**JM86** · 12-22-2018, 03:26 PM

Hello all, I apologize if there is already a thread about this, however I couldn't find one.

My Paternal Haplogroup is G-Z7953
My Maternal Haplogroup is K1b2b

My known ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German and The Netherlands with a bit of French.. My oldest known Paternal line ancestor is Edmund Moodye from England. This particular line is known to have haplogroup G. This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.

To me it seems as my ancestry doesn't actually line up with my haplogroups because most people I've seen of Northern and Northwestern European descent have haplogroups R or I..

Any ideas? Has this occurred with anyone else?

JM

**Dick** · 12-22-2018, 03:44 PM

Your subclade is from bell beaker celts nothing odd

**Ayetooey** · 12-22-2018, 03:46 PM

I2a1b=I2yrian/Proto European=Yup

J2b1= Neolithic western farmers=Yup

0% Ayran? Priceless.

**JM86** · 12-22-2018, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dick

Your subclade is from bell beaker celts nothing odd

Ok, Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty new to this stuff and am only trying to learn. I am not really sure how to differentiate from the G itself apparently being of Anatolian or Caucasus designation and the subclade. I guess I need to think of the G in terms of ancient migration and the subclade in terms of a more recent mutation formed in Europe?

**Creoda** · 12-22-2018, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by JM86

This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.

Otzi the Ice-Hermaphrodite?

**Mr.G** · 12-22-2018, 04:07 PM

N-M2783 in Hungary, unusual.
H1e1a in Weastern Europe, normal.

I just sent off my sample to YSEQ this week, find out a more detailed Subclade for my N haplo.

**JM86** · 12-22-2018, 04:08 PM

Lol, maybe so.. I guess I should have specified, 23 and me says that Otzi also carried the same maternal haplogroup that I do.. not that it necessarily was passed down by him. Sorry.

**Dick** · 12-22-2018, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by JM86

Ok, Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty new to this stuff and am only trying to learn. I am not really sure how to differentiate from the G itself apparently being of Anatolian or Caucasus designation and the subclade. I guess I need to think of the G in terms of ancient migration and the subclade in terms of a more recent mutation formed in Europe?

Correct

**~~Kamal900~~** · 12-22-2018, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

I2a1b=I2yrian/Proto European=Yup

J2b1= Neolithic western farmers=Yup

0% Ayran? Priceless.

Slavs are far more closer to the original Indo-Iranians genetically, yes.

**happycow** · 12-23-2018, 07:53 PM

Cool I share my maternal and paternal line with Otzi as well. I was told my paternal haplogroup is quite rare in the Middle east. How it ended up there is a mystery but according to this link my paternal haplogroup was found in England, Italy and Sardinia.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...GwEyc/htmlview

G2a2b2a1a1c1a1b2 - Z6032
England, Italy, Sardinian Italy