Do Women Secretly WANT Patriarchy?

[Ayetooey]

I don't think that women want patriarchy. Women want to be taken seriously and as an equal part of society, I am pretty sure about this.
It doesn't mean that they want a men's transformation into weak creatures.
There still has to be that men's "aura", that strong attitude but not cruelty.

What does "equal part of society" mean? Men and women are completely different; equal in terms of human rights of course, but trying to conflate masculinity and femininity is the problem with the modern west, like sending women out to the front line in wars, having male born trannies competing alongside actual biological women in sports contests, etc. Men and Women both succeed in different aspects.

[Mary]

You are skinny and European skipped University, did it work well for you?

As far as i remember your life story, you used to do the dishes in a restaurant and now you have a family which is economically depending on your mom.

1) I went to university, both in Sweden and in the UK.

2) I worked as a chef, to provide for my man, and then I went to law school in the UK. My mom is an executive and in the top 1% income earners in Sweden. So she can easily afford to pay for my family.

3) However my mom only had one kid, because when you work 60 hours a week and go on business trips several times a month, it takes a toll on your relationships.

[Mary]

You can’t stop me babe

I'm not going to, you go ahead. Get back to us when you're 35.

[The Lawspeaker]

Mary seems to forget though that in the Netherlands, we've always liked it slightly fuller. Going back to the 17th century (at least !) as people believed that women with wider hips and a slightly fuller waist (we're not talking fat here) and larger breasts were better at sustaining the rigors of child birth (yes, people actually believed that !) and economic hardship (when the man was out at sea) and even today,we consider it to be healthier. Vermeer's Milk Maid, so to speak. To quote Piet Bakker's Cis de man (part of the Ciske -triology written around 1941): "...voor de vrouw een "girl" werd" (before the (Dutch)woman became a (American-style) girl) where one of the protagonists admires his former pupil's choice in women who was described as a slightly fuller, blonde-haired, blue-eyes classical Dutch woman.

Thinking of the 17th century. That might well be a solution for the Netherlands (with the exception that the few female students should no longer have to sit behind a curtain but schools and universities should be seperated along gender lines). This could be our version of "white sharia": the women are educated and they run the household, but the man controls both both the religious, financial, educational and political spheres. She the house, he the street. She the kitchen table, he in parliament. She gets to choose who she marries and to whose legal authority she will submit and she will be allowed to inherit and to run the house in his absense and sign documents in his name. She will be allowed to work (or run her own business) and she will run the household booklet, but he will be ultimately responsible for it and it will be in his name.

[Mr. Anybody]

You can not manage your ID, hormones especially feromones.. ^ almost all chick like patriarchy and “macho man” yet they don’t want it because of some reasons..

[Robocop]

I don't think that women want patriarchy. Women want to be taken seriously and as an equal part of society, I am pretty sure about this.
It doesn't mean that they want a men's transformation into weak creatures.
There still has to be that men's "aura", that strong attitude but not cruelty.

I agree that women do not want patriarchy, but they want capable men, means strong by character etc... and not some "weaklings".

At least most women. And this doesn't mean they're not equal, on the contrary, this is just in nature of men and women to be togethar.

Now, this gay society created a lot of weaklings all around, who are not gays but acts almost like them.

[Bosniensis]

I agree that women do not want patriarchy, but they want capable men, means strong by character etc... and not some "weaklings".

They want capable men who knows what to do... which is.... a complex form of saying "Patriarchy"

[Mr. Anybody]

They want capable men who knows what to do... which is.... a complex form of saying "Patriarchy"

Testosterone rules the world,some chicks don’t accept.

[Mortimer]

I'm a weakling I don't fix things I cannot beat up someone or carry heavy bags and even mentally I'm weak because I'm often insecure and don't stand on my own I would be a bad husband somehow maybe better that I am not responsible for a wife too only for myself

[Ayetooey]

I'm a weakling I don't fix things I cannot beat up someone or carry heavy bags and even mentally I'm weak because I'm often insecure and don't stand on my own I would be a bad husband somehow maybe better that I am not responsible for a wife too only for myself

I'm sure this isn't true; from what you've said about yourself you're actually quite confident, you also have strong traditional values which are hugely respectable.