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    "To win the war on terror we must understand our enemy. The courageous and indefatigable Robert Spencer destroys myths and tells truths about jihadists that no one else will tell. " - Michelle Malkin, author of Defense of Internment

    "In this book Robert Spencer tells the truth that few in the US or Europe wish to face... Here is a devastating ripostle to that revisionism - and a clarion call for the defencse of the West before it is too late."
    Ibn Warraq (author of Why I am Not a Muslims and editor of Leaving Islam)

    Robert Spencer , an expert on historical jihad, responds with a "politically incorrect" but academically sound and challenging work.


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    The year 1 on the Islamic calendar commemorates Muhammad's becoming a military leader of the Muslims.

    I am against sharia:
    1. Restricting the freedom of conscience (such as by killing people for leaving Islam)
    2. Restricting the freedom of speech (such as criminalizing blasphemy, persecuting atheists and free thinkers)
    3. Restricting the equality of rights of women (such as forcing women to wear bee-keeper suits, female genital mutilation, testimony counts as half of a man's)
    4. Restricting the equality of rights of homosexuals (such as by killing them for having gay sex)
    5. Restricting the equality of rights of non-Muslims (such as Dhimma, a subjugated second class citizen's status for Jews and Christians)
    etc.

    These are what I am against, and no I would not compromise any of the above listed reasons for why I am against Islam, and its religious law, the sharia.

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    According to Islamic laws, non-Muslims in Islamic lands should be subdued and be treated as dhimmis (second class citizens). They should be coerced and intimidated to convert to Islam, through special humiliating taxes like Jizyah imposed on them. Following Prophet Muhammad's example, this has been taking place throughout Islam's history. While Muslims demand for concessions in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims are systematically persecuted, terrorized and ethnically cleansed from Islamic lands.

    In 2008 alone, there were 2,204 separate documented incidents of Islamically motivated violence which led to death. In total there were 10,779 deaths and another 18,213 critically injured. That is more people killed each and every year in the name of Islam, than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. More than 29 people are killed in religiously motivated attacks every single day at the hands of Muslims. If you spend just one short hour reading through some of the news articles compiled on this page, there would have been another one to two deaths attributed to Islam and countless other incidents involving beatings, rapes, abductions, forced conversions, desecration of non-Muslim buildings, etc.

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    Islam is the only major world religion that does not allow its followers the freedom to change faith. According to Shari'ah laws (extracted from the Qur'an and Sunnah), apostates of Islam must be sentenced to death. This has led to former Muslims often being persecuted, abused and killed. This treatment of apostates is not simply down to the issue of state-enforced religion as some may suggest. As you will find out on this page, the violence or threats of violence against apostates in the Muslim world usually derives not from government authorities but from family members and individuals from the Islamic communities themselves, who operate very often with impunity from the government. This point is further emphasised by the persecution and murder of former Muslims which has now become evident in many non-Muslim societies across the globe.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Ex-Muslims

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    Homosexuality is considered to be one of the worst sins in Islam and one of the greatest crimes punishable under Islamic law.[1] The Prophet Muhammad not only condemned homosexuality[2] but even the "appearance" of homosexuality (effeminate men and masculine women).[3] With the rise of the Islamic population amongst historically non-Muslim societies, also comes the rise in persecution. For example, while Muslims comprise just 2% of the total British population, they commit 25% of all anti-Homosexual crimes.[4] However, this ongoing and increasing persecution of homosexuals by Muslims around the world, rarely makes the mainstream news. Thanks to the Internet, those of us who search can find many news items that would otherwise be lost.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Homosexuals

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    Qur'an 2:22

    "[He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]."

    This verse of the Qur'an says the Earth is flat.

    Qur'an 20:53
    "He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others."

    This verse says the Earth is made like a carpet (flat).

    Qur'an 83:86

    "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”"

    Zul-qarnain is Alexander the Great. The verse above says Alexander the Great discovered where the Sun sets, it sets in a spring of murky water.
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    Default Apostasy from Islam in Sharia Law

    The rulings for the four four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence and the Ja'fari school in Shia Islam can be summarised as follows:

    Hanafi - recommends three days of imprisonment before execution to allow repentance, although the delay before killing the Muslim apostate is not mandatory. Apostates who are men must be killed, states the Hanafi Sunni fiqh, while women must be held in solitary confinement and beaten every three days till they recant and return to Islam.

    Maliki - allows three days for recantation, after which the apostate must be killed. The same applies to both men and women apostates according to the traditional view of Sunni Maliki fiqh.

    Shafi'i - waiting period of three days is required to allow the Muslim apostate to repent and return to Islam. After the wait, execution is the traditional recommended punishment for both men and women apostates.

    Hanbali - three day waiting period should be granted. Apostate is invited three times to repent. Execution is the traditionally recommended punishment for both genders of Muslim apostates.

    And in Shia Islam:

    Ja'fari - waiting period not necessary, but may be granted according to this Shia fiqh, but only if the apostate was born a disbeliever (Murtad al-Milli). A male apostate must be executed, states the Ja'fari fiqh, while a female apostate must be held in solitary confinement and beaten on the hours of salah with her food tightly rationed till she repents and returns to Islam.

    Source: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

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    Modern Muslims

    A Pew poll released on April 30, 2013 asked Muslims in 39 countries between 2008 and 2012 questions about religion, politics and society based on 38,000 face-to-face interviews. In one question, asked in 37 of these countries with a combined Muslim population of just over 1 billion people, the survey asked participants whether they favored or opposed the death penalty for leaving Islam. Using the complete dataset for this question on page 219 of the full report, and weighing the responses by Muslim population indicates that overall, 40% of Muslims in these countries favour the death penalty for apostasy from Islam.

    The percentage was below 10% in Central Asia, Turkey and Balkan countries included in the survey. It was above 50% in Afghanistan (79%), Egypt (88%), Jordan (83%), Malaysia (58%), Pakistan (75%), Palestinian Territories (62%), and Djbouti (62%). It is possible that support for the penalty has fallen in the years since the survey was conducted due to worldwide distaste for the actions of ISIS and attempts to distance Islam from the actions of that group, and in Egypt following the negative experience of Muslim Brotherhood government.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy
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    Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260

    As you can see this is a "Sahih" [sound] narration so it is normative for Islamic law.

    "... as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

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