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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    For what?
    For your ignorant sentence about us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labeat View Post
    Source!!!
    Ushtari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäärapää View Post
    Not really. Even our national flag is among the 10% oldest flags in the world. Already in pre-medieval times, the Estonians knew who they are. If any foreign enemy came, then all the different counties united against the enemy.

    I would say that the English are a considerably younger ethnicity than us. A subgroup of the Estonians, the Seto people are the oldest ethnicity in Europe.

    Back to the topic: My guess would be the Kosovars.
    Again, you need to provide documentary evidence of ethnic identity. Without it, you are relying on pure guesswork and wishful thinking.

    We have a very clear reference to the English people from Bede, writing in 731. And that's probably not even the oldest. Pope Gregory recognised Ethelbert of Kent as King of the English in 600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Again, you need to provide documentary evidence of ethnic identity. Without it, you are relying on pure guesswork and wishful thinking.

    We have a very clear reference to the English people from Bede, writing in 731. And that's probably not even the oldest. Pope Gregory recognised Ethelbert of Kent as King of the English in 600.
    I would put english ethnogenesis in 650-700 circa.

    Like this text, that call english "Engla", that is the antiquate form for english

    "Eala Earendel engla beorhtast ofer middangeard monnum sended"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribuno View Post
    I would put english ethnogenesis in 650-700 circa.

    Like this text, that call english "Engla", that is the antiquate form for english

    "Eala Earendel engla beorhtast ofer middangeard monnum sended"
    Indeed. Self-identifaction by name, the same name throughout history, is a very good test of identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Again, you need to provide documentary evidence of ethnic identity. Without it, you are relying on pure guesswork and wishful thinking.

    We have a very clear reference to the English people from Bede, writing in 731. And that's probably not even the oldest. Pope Gregory recognised Ethelbert of Kent as King of the English in 600.
    Estonians are mentioned in Old Norse Icelandic Sagas and in the Heimskringla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäärapää View Post
    Estonians are mentioned in Old Norse Icelandic Sagas and in the Heimskringla.
    Which date to no earlier than 1000 and up to two or three centuries later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Which date to no earlier than 1000 and up to two or three centuries later.
    Slightly off-topic, but I have to troll you back.

    The English < Scandinavian vikings < Estonian vikings = The English < The Estonians

    Think about that for some time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäärapää View Post
    Not really. Even our national flag is among the 10% oldest flags in the world. Already in pre-medieval times, the Estonians knew who they are. If any foreign enemy came, then all the different counties united against the enemy.

    I would say that the English are a considerably younger ethnicity than us. A subgroup of the Estonians, the Seto people are the oldest ethnicity in Europe.

    Back to the topic: My guess would be the Kosovars.
    So is Latvian flag, which was used first in 1280. But Baltic people started to call themselves "Latvians" only in 16th century.
    Of course, in Northern Crusade, the tribes united against crusaders.
    Unfortunately, Livonians were conquered first as they were weak so they fought along with Germans against Baltic people. The last who surrendered were Semigallians, who were conquered ~90 years later than Livonians, about half of them wanted to save their Baltic-paganic identity, so they merged with Žemaitians.
    It is a shame, that we didn't had united country as Lithuanians and that we didn't merged with them. Now we would have common history with them, not with these Estonian wannabe nord fuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäärapää View Post
    Slightly off-topic, but I have to troll you back.

    The English < Scandinavian vikings < Estonian vikings = The English < The Estonians

    Think about that for some time...
    Nah, can't be bothered. Explain yourself, or not, as you wish.

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