Germans and Hungarians gather to pay tribute to their fallen comrades Budapest October 16, 1944

[Turul Karom]

Not related to Germanic ethnicity, I feel the same about any war with Italians or French.

I have read in some western sources that the modern day Anglo Saxon Identity is a fabrication of sorts. Granted, most of these were quite left on their political spectrum, but I recall there being a definitive "loss" then "regaining" of the idea of being Anglo-Saxon amongst the English, including those that settled the New World. The Normans were French speaking and French identifying, yet eventually the English would come to identify with the conquered, rather that the Norman conquerors. What also confuses and interests me then, is that despite this, they claim the history of England starting at 1066 with the Norman Conquests, and not the unification of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms nor the invasion of Britain by the Angles and Saxons.

How do you feel about this?

[Turul Karom]

Do you see any big things that we can do here ? And not everyone is a potential doctor. The Netherlands has always been very strong in developing infrastructure. But, yes, maybe we can update our current system and drain a few polders here and there. Move the airport out to sea. That sort of thing.

I'm not up to date on critical Dutch affairs in the modern day, nor through history. But for face value, I don't know why one would have "colonies" high on their "to do" list. I agree not everyone is a potential doctor, and that there is a sort of "destructive" nature that seems inherent in humanity in a latent form or otherwise, but I don't see how one makes that jump to link it to "therefore, we need colonies". I don't think they work out in the long run, as history shows, regardless of war outcomes, let alone the moral implications.

[Teutone]

I have read in some western sources that the modern day Anglo Saxon Identity is a fabrication of sorts. Granted, most of these were quite left on their political spectrum, but I recall there being a definitive "loss" then "regaining" of the idea of being Anglo-Saxon amongst the English, including those that settled the New World. The Normans were French speaking and French identifying, yet eventually the English would come to identify with the conquered, rather that the Norman conquerors. What also confuses and interests me then, is that despite this, they claim the history of England starting at 1066 with the Norman Conquests, and not the unification of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms nor the invasion of Britain by the Angles and Saxons.

How do you feel about this?

I dont give too much damn about genetics,phentoypes etc this doesnt matter to anyone in real life.

I care about culture,history and civilisation.

Italians, Spanish, French, Brittish, Dutch, Germans etc are all part of the Okzident and western civilisation, high cultures and crafted western Europe. Therfor I feel unity and love with all those people.

[Dna8]

Not Hungarians, but traitors.

I sympathize with you.. I've seen some pro Nazi Serbs here.. cringeworthy..

[Dacul]

Turkics of the world say otherwise:


Fascinating how many people resort to wikiposting, as though throwing that around has any real bearing.

You are the only Turkic people from the world that love to drink Palinka .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1linka
And love to eat Slanina, also.
Dude, lol, why you are not accepting your true West Slavic ethnicity?

[Turul Karom]

I dont give too much damn about genetics,phentoypes etc this doesnt matter to anyone in real life.

I care about culture,history and civilisation.

Italians, Spanish, French, Brittish, Dutch, Germans etc are all part of the Okzident and western civilisation, high cultures and crafted western Europe. Therfor I feel unity and love with all those people.

So does that mean what? You are a pan-Europeanist? Do you support a sort of pan-European movement or government? I know the average person cares little for phenotypes; I certainly don't walk around classifying everyone lol. That said, I do think people care about genetics in so far as they care about how they relate to the continuity of cultural and historical identity. That includes the average person.

I would still enjoy your comments on what I talked about regarding the Anglo-Saxons.

[Teutone]

So does that mean what? You are a pan-Europeanist? Do you support a sort of pan-European movement or government? I know the average person cares little for phenotypes; I certainly don't walk around classifying everyone lol. That said, I do think people care about genetics in so far as they care about how they relate to the continuity of cultural and historical identity. That includes the average person.

I would still enjoy your comments on what I talked about regarding the Anglo-Saxons.

Im no pan-europeanist I simply want friendly relations and no more brother wars on this continent. We are a tiny minority compared to other Races and their population growth. We need a ethno-pluralist fortress Europa.

On the anglo-saxon I simply dont know whats true or not about their origin, never put intrest in it. Culturally they for sure veeeeeery similar to Germanics and this what matters to me first and foremost.

[Turul Karom]

You are the only Turkic people from the world that love to drink Palinka .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1linka
And love to eat Slanina, also.
Dude, lol, why you are not accepting your true West Slavic ethnicity?

Pardon the broken images; I have fixed them. I don't know why sometimes imgur links like to eat the images. But they do.

Also, we certainly aren't, as there are many Turkic peoples who drink alcohol. I have seen plenty at Kazakh weddings, even. Even I do not drink pálinka, as I am not a fan of alcohol myself. No, I am not a Muslim, haha. Thankfully many younger people live healthier in Hungary today, despite the obesity issues in some areas. Drinking used to be much worse under communism, especially in places with early starts to the working day where some workers would gather to drink alcohol.

To answer your possible rhetorical question, I assume you are arguing from a standpoint of genetic proximity. Therefore, anyone can say that population "x" is not Turkic, such as the Uyghurs who genetically cluster with Sinic peoples, and Anatolian Turks who cluster close to Kurds or other non-Turkic peoples of the Caucuses and middle east. It is a logical fallacy, because the Overton Window of what is a "Turk" constantly shifts.

Frankly, you would have more of an argument if no other Turkic nations recognized Hungarians, as it would be a much harder struggle for acceptance in this way. However, all Turkic nations see us as Turkic in a fraternal sense, and this is becoming increasingly more formalized even in the world of politics. Therefore, I have little care for the designations of non-Turkic nations unto us.

[Dacul]

Pardon the broken images; I have fixed them. I don't know why sometimes imgur links like to eat the images. But they do.

Also, we certainly aren't, as there are many Turkic peoples who drink alcohol. I have seen plenty at Kazakh weddings, even. Even I do not drink pálinka, as I am not a fan of alcohol myself. No, I am not a Muslim, haha. Thankfully many younger people live healthier in Hungary today, despite the obesity issues in some areas. Drinking used to be much worse under communism, especially in places with early starts to the working day where some workers would gather to drink alcohol.

To answer your possible rhetorical question, I assume you are arguing from a standpoint of genetic proximity. Therefore, anyone can say that population "x" is not Turkic, such as the Uyghurs who genetically cluster with Sinic peoples, and Anatolian Turks who cluster close to Kurds or other non-Turkic peoples of the Caucuses and middle east. It is a logical fallacy, because the Overton Window of what is a "Turk" constantly shifts.

Frankly, you would have more of an argument if no other Turkic nations recognized Hungarians, as it would be a much harder struggle for acceptance in this way. However, all Turkic nations see us as Turkic in a fraternal sense, and this is becoming increasingly more formalized even in the world of politics. Therefore, I have little care for the designations of non-Turkic nations unto us.

Dude be what nation you want and leave me alone, I need to go to eat.
As much as you like argue, for sure you have Romanian genes,also, trust me.
People from Turkey have also plenty of Balkanic genes, being more close to Balkanic people than to people of Kazakhstan.
This is why people from Turkey are so talkative and like arguments.

[Turul Karom]

Im no pan-europeanist I simply want friendly relations and no more brother wars on this continent. We are a tiny minority compared to other Races and their population growth. We need a ethno-pluralist fortress Europa.

On the anglo-saxon I simply dont know whats true or not about their origin, never put intrest in it. Culturally they for sure veeeeeery similar to Germanics and this what matters to me first and foremost.

Not just the origins of Anglo-Saxons, but rather the identity of the English themselves, who have a contradictory Anglo-Saxon identity while citing the start of their history as being 1066 of the Norman Conquest.They don't call themselves "Normans", and I find it odd yet fascinating.