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  • Northern- and Central French

    7 22.58%
  • Czechs

    10 32.26%
  • Walloons

    7 22.58%
  • Finns

    4 12.90%
  • Lowland Scots

    13 41.94%
  • Cornish

    6 19.35%
  • Northern Italians (excluding South Tyroleans)

    2 6.45%
  • Baltics (Latvians and Lithuanians)

    1 3.23%
  • Swiss-French

    3 9.68%
  • Swiss-Italians

    0 0%
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    Lowland Scots are Germanic, so they should not be on the list, neither Icelanders.

    I think the answer can only be northern French, Irish, or Poles/Czechs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Lowland Scots are Germanic, so they should not be on the list, neither Icelanders.

    I think the answer can only be northern French, Irish, or Poles/Czechs.
    Walloons more than Northern French, except for French Flemings and Alsatians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Lowland Scots are Germanic, so they should not be on the list, neither Icelanders.

    I think the answer can only be northern French, Irish, or Poles/Czechs.
    If they are so germanic, why did they have Scottish Gaelic surnames like "Cunningham" or "Armstrong"? In some parts of the Lowland Scottish Gaelic was still spoken until the 18th century. The last Cornish speaker died in the 17th century and Cornwall is still considered to be a Celtic Nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Lowland Scots are Germanic, so they should not be on the list, neither Icelanders.

    I think the answer can only be northern French, Irish, or Poles/Czechs.
    i don't think poles are much germanic tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Celt View Post
    If they are so germanic, why did they have Scottish Gaelic surnames like "Cunningham" or "Armstrong"? In some parts of the Lowland Scottish Gaelic was still spoken until the 18th century. The last Cornish speaker died in the 17th century and Cornwall is still considered to be a Celtic Nation.
    By the way, I don't want to deny the germanic influence on Lowland Scotland or the fact that most of the Lowland Scots have spoken a germanic language for nearly 1000 years, but to say they are just Germanic is a bit to simplistic for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Celt View Post
    If they are so germanic, why did they have Scottish Gaelic surnames like "Cunningham" or "Armstrong"? In some parts of the Lowland Scottish Gaelic was still spoken until the 18th century. The last Cornish speaker died in the 17th century and Cornwall is still considered to be a Celtic Nation.
    Cornwall plots identically to the rest of Southern England, they're no "celtic" than the English. Scots can be just as Germanic as English.

    I'd vote Ireland.

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    Orkney got R1b-U106 as the highest percentage paternal line.
    I think they also have like 35% R1A Norse.

    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/08...paper.html?m=1
    Orkney got 11% East Europe DNA.
    They say Orkney got 25% Norway DNA ,autosomal.
    How much from other Germanic people like AngloSaxons,Danes, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Celt View Post
    If they are so germanic, why did they have Scottish Gaelic surnames like "Cunningham" or "Armstrong"? In some parts of the Lowland Scottish Gaelic was still spoken until the 18th century. The last Cornish speaker died in the 17th century and Cornwall is still considered to be a Celtic Nation.
    Cunningham and Armstrong are Gaelic names? They sound very English origin to me.

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    Is this a genetics question or cultural? If genetics then Irish people are close genetically to both Scandinavians and Germanics. It is surprising how many people have problems with this. I'm not sure why myself as being Irish I just go with what genetics shows. I'm still not sure whether labels like Celtic or Germanic are helpful in these discussions.

    If language the answer might be different but areas of Ireland like Wexford and Dublin had their own Germanic languages i.e. Fingalian and Yola. Most Irish though are not descended from Germanic speakers.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/col...85649-Jul2013/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_and_Bargy_dialect

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingallian

    I'm sure a lot of people aren't aware of the languages above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    Cunningham and Armstrong are Gaelic names? They sound very English origin to me.
    Cunningham comes from the Gaelic word "coineanach" which means rabbit and the Saxon word "ham" which means village.

    Armstrong can be both, Anglo-Saxon and Gaelic so I was wrong about that name.

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