Are PaleoBalkanic and Vlach Synonymous?

[Pribislav]

Paleo-Balkanic people in anicent times were mix of various genetics neolithic, WHG, IE... in Roman time they got extra MENA influence.

Paleo-Balkanites were not only neolithic. They were IE speaekers, that is well known.

[Dna8]

Yes, he's a paleo-Balkanic type - basically hardly different from Southern Europeans proper and could pass in a place like Italy and Spain. His look isn't considered 'extreme' here in any way and while many Serbs could pass/look as people from Central Europe, I don't believe the average person does. I may be wrong when I say this, but not even half of our ancestry is Slavic, so there shouldn't be any surprise that this kind of appearance is common.

I very much agree with you.. I opted to suggest that our average person passes in Central Europe so as not to give the impression that I am trying to deslavicize Serbs..

It is because I very much agree with you, that I have suggested a few times how quintessentially Yugo Sale looks

[Ryuk]

if I remember correctly,ancient sources describe some of the paleo-Balkan peoples with fair-skinned,colored eyed and light haired.

I think the Paleo-Balkan peoples were similar to the Southern Slavs today.Some of them look northern,some of them look southern.

[Dna8]

if I remember correctly,ancient sources describe some of the paleo-Balkan peoples with fair-skinned,colored eyed and light haired.

My understanding is that ancient phenotypic descriptions/accounts are problematic for various reasons.. authors basing descriptions upon second, thirdhand accounts etc..

[Pribislav]

if I remember correctly,ancient sources describe some of the paleo-Balkan peoples with fair-skinned,colored eyed and light haired.

I think the Paleo-Balkan peoples were similar to the Southern Slavs today.Some of them look northern,some of them look southern.

Ancient Balkanites were mix of "southern" and "northern" Europeans.

In ancient time there was few waves of northern invaders which arrived tpo Balkans, they mixed with Med people which found in the Balkans.

[Dna8]

Would you say the Celtic influence in the Balkans, both genetic and cultural, is overstated?

[Pribislav]

Would you say the Celtic influence in the Balkans, both genetic and cultural, is overstated?

Celtic invasion of Balkans

[Mingle]

No. 'Paleo' comes from the Greek word palaios which means "ancient" and the term Paleo-Balkan basically just means "ancient Balkan" and is used in reference to the people who have been around in the Balkans since antiquity (i.e. before Roman and Slavic colonization of the region). Greek and Albanian are said to be the only surviving Paleo-Balkan languages since both have been spoken in the Balkans since antiquity. Some extinct Paleo-Balkan languages include Paeonian, Thracian, and Illyrian (if you assume Albanian isn't a surviving Illyrian language).

Vlachs (not to be confused with the social class 'vlach') are just the Romance-speaking people of Southeast Europe. Ethnic Romanians are also considered Vlachs for example.

In terms of whether one can "look Paleo-Balkan", that's simply another way of saying whether the person looks Mediterranean/Southern European.

Vlachs (especially those from Greece, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria) are associated with having a Paleo-Balkan look since they're genetically Southern European without as much Slavic influence as South Slavs, but they aren't a Paleo-Balkan people per se.

[Mingle]

Paleo-Balkan languages/peoples:

[Pribislav]

Illyrans were tribe which lived on small territory in present day southern Dalmatia and Montenegro. Romans called them "Illyrans", and we don't now what was their orignal name or how they call themselves (not Illyrans for sure).
When Romans conquered Balkans they gave name Illyria/Illyric to big territory from Istia and Slovenia to western Serbia. Sources are clear that Dalmatae and Liburnians were not same as Illyrians.