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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Was looking at photos of Aussie Rules Football fans based on this thread. They just look like football fans in the British Isles. Close to indistinguishable.
    Yes, it's bemusing to me when people say that ordinary Anglo-Celtic Australians look different from British. They tend to look healthier and more tanned, that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Yes, it's bemusing to me when people say that ordinary Anglo-Celtic Australians look different from British. They tend to look healthier and more tanned, that's about it.
    Do you have DNA results of Australians? Are they pure Brit genetically or do they have slight admixture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon96 View Post
    Do you have DNA results of Australians? Are they pure Brit genetically or do they have slight admixture?
    Yes I have Australian kits. Most people with ancestry here from before WWII are purely British Isles, although quite a few have minor continental ancestry (often German/Dutch/Scandinavian). Many people since the War have continental roots, but the bulk of the population is still Anglo-Celtic, especially in rural areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Yes I have Australian kits. Most people with ancestry here from before WWII are purely British Isles, although quite a few have minor continental ancestry (often German/Dutch/Scandinavian). Many people since the War have continental roots, but the bulk of the population is still Anglo-Celtic, especially in rural areas.
    Very interesting. Seems like Australians have remained rather unmixed. How much non British+Irish admixture would the average Aussie have? Maybe 5-10 percent.

    Could you perhaps post the result of one or two Australian results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon96 View Post
    Very interesting. Seems like Australians have remained rather unmixed. How much non British+Irish admixture would the average Aussie have? Maybe 5-10 percent.

    Could you perhaps post the result of one or two Australian results?
    There isn't really an 'average' yet, there is Anglo-Celtic Australians, then there is ethnics/continentals, and an increasing number of people mixed between them. Most Anglo-Celtic Australians are fully of British Isles descent.

    Here is a K13 average of 45 Colonial Australian kits I collected (people whose GEDcoms go back fully to Australia before Federation/WW1). Pretty much all of them are genealogically of British Isles descent, either fully and nearly fully, some from memory had minor continental, but some have other weird non-Euro admixture that is unusual, so it's not totally representative, but it gives a good general idea.

    Code:
    Colonial_Australian,49.99,22.92,13.40,5.73,3.56,0.68,1.45,0.48,0.23,0.79,0.30,0.22,0.19
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    Distance to:	Colonial_Australian
    0.85475143	English
    1.15169440	English_Midlands
    1.17545736	English_Southwest
    1.27659704	English_Southeast
    1.30042301	English_North
    1.37054734	Welsh
    2.72319665	Scottish
    2.72426137	Irish_Leinster
    2.72545409	Orcadian
    2.82426982	France_north-west
    3.21378282	Dutch
    3.40843072	Dutch_Central
    3.58467572	Irish
    3.84255124	Irish_Munster
    3.92025509	West_Scottish
    4.20007143	Irish_Connacht
    4.40814020	Irish_Ulster
    4.44916846	Dutch_North
    4.95382680	Dutch_South
    6.32344052	North_German
    6.86411684	Denmark
    6.87063316	Afrikaner
    7.02311897	German_West
    7.11614362	Norwegian
    7.47978609	Norway_South_Central
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    Target: Colonial_Australian
    Distance: 0.2035% / 0.20346486 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.5	English_Southwest
    25.3	Scottish
    18.9	English_Southeast
    7.3	English
    0.4	Austroasiatic_Ho
    0.3	Cambodian
    0.3	Mayan
    
    Target: Colonial_Australian
    Distance: 0.6554% / 0.65541235 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.6	English_Southeast
    22.4	Irish_Munster
    On the original K13 sheet
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    Distance to:	Colonial_Australian
    2.35900403	Southeast_English
    2.72545409	Orcadian
    3.15851231	Southwest_English
    3.55108434	Irish
    3.92025509	West_Scottish
    4.39313100	North_Dutch
    4.80616271	Danish
    6.32344052	North_German
    7.11614362	Norwegian
    7.16612866	South_Dutch
    8.70465967	West_German
    9.61819630	Swedish
    13.14796182	French
    15.46033958	Austrian
    16.00666111	East_German
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    Target: Colonial_Australian
    Distance: 0.2280% / 0.22801912 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    39.9	Irish
    37.0	Southeast_English
    12.0	Southwest_English
    9.4	South_Dutch
    0.7	Makrani
    0.7	Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
    0.2	Sindhi
    0.1	Aghan_Hazara
    
    Target: Colonial_Australian
    Distance: 0.4618% / 0.46177959 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    34.4	Irish
    33.5	Southeast_English
    14.5	Southwest_English
    11.5	South_Dutch
    4.7	Orcadian
    1.4	Burusho
    
    Target: Colonial_Australian
    Distance: 1.6188% / 1.61877305 | ADC: 1x RC
    64.8	Southeast_English
    35.2	Irish
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    Americans have predominantly German/Scandinavian ancestry.

    Australian ancestry is predominantly from the British Isles, it was a prison colony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Americans have predominantly German/Scandinavian ancestry.

    Australian ancestry is predominantly from the British Isles, it was a prison colony.
    This is largely true, but lots of Anglos in New England and Southern Coastal US : Virginia, Carolinas, GA. They still don't look Australian to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    This is largely true, but lots of Anglos in New England and Southern Coastal US : Virginia, Carolinas, GA. They still don't look Australian to me.
    Why what do Australians looke like ?

    Australian just like Americans are a bunch different mixed people

    Australia mainly has Anglos,general Brits and also lots of Greeks,Italians and even some Lebos

    What Australia and America probably have in common is solid British stock

    What might be a difference is there is probably much less Mainland Germanics in Australia than in America
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