Who is closer to Judaism? islam or christianity(jews answer)

[Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda]

All Abrahamic religions have similarities but i think that Islam is a bit closer to Judaism because it feels more old school. Many Jews and Muslims are Middle Eastern and they have more of that feeling in the game. Christians and Jews however tend to stick together in a modern world and they share exact same stories of the Old Testament if we leave Messianic prophecies aside. And that holy trinity thing which is usually misunderstood. Mohammed was quite clever to declare himself as a "bigger than Abraham" messiah since some people were still waiting for it to happen. But Jews didn't buy it. Not like Islam didn't spread. It did and it seems that many Muslims believe that they are chosen ones (through Ishmael) and should have Jerusalem and all the blessings. This is not very Biblical take but is nevertheless depicted in the Bible as a beef between Isaac and Ishmael/ Esau and Jacob.

Yes, the Biblical relatedness between Hebrews and "Arabs" played a key role in the spread of Islam. Many Muslims still use Old Testament in order to justify that Islam is THE TRUTH: disappointed by Isaac's descendants behaviour, He would have chosen their cousins : Ismael's offspring.
The funniest thing is that several Muslims, even from non-Arab areas (Moroccans for example, Moroccan Berbers more precisely) identify with Ismael, believing he's their actual ancestor and that Jews are their "lost" (in the spiritual meaning) cousins.

[Loki]

Yes, the Biblical relatedness between Hebrews and "Arabs" played a key role in the spread of Islam. Many Muslims still use Old Testament in order to justify that Islam is THE TRUTH: disappointed by Isaac's descendants behaviour, He would have chosen their cousins : Ismael's offspring.
The funniest thing is that several Muslims, even from non-Arab areas (Moroccans for example, Moroccan Berbers more precisely) identify with Ismael, believing he's their actual ancestor and that Jews are their "lost" (in the spiritual meaning) cousins.

But the matter of fact is that there is no real link between Ishmael and Islam, only imagined. Genetically Arabs may be descendants of Ishmael, but most Muslims are not Arabs these days! As far as the religion is concerned, Islam is not directly connected to the ancient Israelite religion. It is only in a pseudo way, and the religion of Islam does not even follow any books of the Bible, but it follows an entirely new book, the Quran, supposedly written by Mohammed, but its contents appear very corrupted from the supposedly ancestral parts in the Bible -- and the reason for that is, as I have pointed out before, the Quran plagiarized apocryphal writings instead of the canonical ones. If they had used canonical writings it might have been closer to the original thing. But it's not. And on top of that Mohammed added many other things, and Islam created its own history.

[Phenix]

Nonsense. Don't be ridiculous. Your knowledge about Christianity is very lacking.



No it doesn't.



So?



Irrelevant



So what?



And? None of these points you mention have anything to do with "pagan European". European, perhaps. But only in a certain sense. Christianity's beliefs are universal, but it had its origin in the ancient religion of Israel.

You got it all wrong, I was answering Hureem Sultana on why Christianity is a European religion even if the affiliation is with ancient Israeli religion: Yahwism.

[Mo123]

As a Jew converted to Christianity I can say that Judaism and Christianity differ in the most important thing: How can I become just before the Lord?
While in Judaism and Islam it depends mostly on your works, in Christianity (biggest exception might be Catholicism) it's the faith alone that justifies you!

[Östsvensk]

Jewish scholars criticize Christians for having made distortions of the Bible. On that basis, you must have never read the Quran if you give Islam for an answer. According to Muslims anyway, Jewish scriptures are corrupted so heavily that the ten commandments have been changed. It says that their commandments were what always applied to the Hebrews! The Quran has also removed some stories from the Jewish Bible, such as Daniel and the lion's den and Samson and Delilah. A Christian would know of them.

Oh, and the Quran doesn't wait until the second chapter to mention that the Jews killed Jesus.

[Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda]

Jewish scholars criticize Christians for having made distortions of the Bible. On that basis, you must have never read the Quran if you give Islam for an answer. According to Muslims anyway, Jewish scriptures are corrupted so heavily that the ten commandments have been changed. It says that their commandments were what always applied to the Hebrews! The Quran has also removed some stories from the Jewish Bible, such as Daniel and the lion's den and Samson and Delilah. A Christian would know of them.

Oh, and the Quran doesn't wait until the second chapter to mention that the Jews killed Jesus.

The Quran doesn't claim that Jews killed Jesus :
"Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain"
(Chapter 4)

[Östsvensk]

The Quran doesn't claim that Jews killed Jesus :
"Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain"
(Chapter 4)

If that is so, I will admit to having read it through too fast. In combination with seeing some Jew haters from Turkey saying it online...

[Sacrificed Ram]

But the matter of fact is that there is no real link between Ishmael and Islam, only imagined. Genetically Arabs may be descendants of Ishmael, but most Muslims are not Arabs these days!

There is none affirmation in Christian Bible that arabs are descendants of Ishmael, it exist only in apocryphal/jewish literature and may used much currently with political purpose. Christians, mainly the protestant are currently very submisse to jewish interests, what makes them follow beliefs not present originally in the body of christianism. Some arabs themselves claim be descendants of the biblical character called Joktan, because of it they call themselves Qatanite Arabs, Qatan is Joktan in arab.

[Loki]

As a Jew converted to Christianity I can say that Judaism and Christianity differ in the most important thing: How can I become just before the Lord?
While in Judaism and Islam it depends mostly on your works, in Christianity (biggest exception might be Catholicism) it's the faith alone that justifies you!

Very well said, I agree.

[Loki]

Jewish scholars criticize Christians for having made distortions of the Bible.

That's laughable, when it's actually the opposite.