I reckon I have to take my leave...

**Loki** · 03-07-2009, 01:14 PM

Our rules say "full European descent". What does this mean in practice?

First of all, how do we know all members here are of 100% European descent? It's kinda hard to know on an internet platform. And even so, without a massive genealogical search and genetic test, no-one can be sure of 100%, not even non-colonial Europeans.

Secondly, what do we prefer having:

1. Someone who is honest about a trace colonial admixture, that is effectively bred out by many generations, and is of European culture and orientation, allegiance?

2. Someone who claims to be 100% European, yet hides a more recent admixture in the closet?

I personally prefer the honest approach of 1).

Discuss.

**~~Baron Samedi~~** · 03-07-2009, 01:14 PM

Well, then by all means I should leave this place too! *swoons*

I mean shit boy, at least you aint part Heebro like I am....

**~~Baron Samedi~~** · 03-07-2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by raþbeorn

It also poses a religious issue, when I began studying Germanic polytheism I got wrapped up in the whole Varg Vikernes thing for a while, and my view in regards to any religion is highly distorted because I do not know what is properly cited and the sort, well Varg's take on the Germanic polytheism is that only people of 100% European ancestry could be honored in the after life, the rest doomed to a fate with Hel and to fight on the side of the Giants during Ragnarok, and if Varg's interpretation is true, that means during the end of all days I'm destined to be on the side of chaos and against the honored Aesir.

Yeah..... This brings me back.... I used to be this way.

STOP WORRYING.

If you have the heritage, and you care about the ways of those particular ancestors, go with the Gods dude!

And Varg is a moron.

**Barreldriver** · 03-07-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Our rules say "full European descent". What does this mean in practice?

First of all, how do we know all members here are of 100% European descent? It's kinda hard to know on an internet platform.

Secondly, what do we prefer having:

1. Someone who is honest about a trace colonial admixture, that is effectively bred out by many generations, and is of European culture and orientation, allegiance?

2. Someone who claims to be 100% European, yet hides a more recent admixture in the closet?

I personally prefer the honest approach of 1).

Discuss. :coffee

Makes sense, I'd be damned if I claimed any Injun "heritage" I see it that heritage does not equal ancestry, ancestry is your genealogy, heritage is what you get/inherit from your genealogy and I inherited an offshoot of Colonial Era British culture, a white culture, and I guess the majority wins in all conflicts and 99.8 does out number .2 by a lot.

**~~Baron Samedi~~** · 03-07-2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by raþbeorn

My main issue now then is with the religious debate, is Varg Vikernes' word moot? Or does it stand that only the pure enter Valhalla?

Varg is NOT the ultimate word on Germanic heathenry.... Please do not think such drivel.

**Lady L** · 03-07-2009, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by raþbeorn

It also poses a religious issue, when I began studying Germanic polytheism I got wrapped up in the whole Varg Vikernes thing for a while, and my view in regards to any religion is highly distorted because I do not know what is properly cited and the sort, well Varg's take on the Germanic polytheism is that only people of 100% European ancestry could be honored in the after life, the rest doomed to a fate with Hel and to fight on the side of the Giants during Ragnarok, and if Varg's interpretation is true, that means during the end of all days I'm destined to be on the side of chaos and against the honored Aesir.

I know what you mean " what is properly cited and the sort " ...

So with that it leaves an opening to the unknown right...no need to hang your head yet ....

When we are dealing with these kind of issues I think the thing to keep in mind is what you do and what you believe are all you can control in your life...

The rest is unknown no matter what your made up of ...for everyone.

**Barreldriver** · 03-07-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hellasson

Varg is NOT the ultimate word on Germanic heathenry.... Please do not think such drivel.

That was just one example, his take on it was the first example I ever read, and the one I remember most clear. I wasn't particularily fond of it, but I'm a newb, I've spent most of my life without religious orientation because of my foul experieces with Chrisitian faiths. New to the whole religion concept, and new to Germanic heathenry.