Independent Kurdistan: would you support it?

[chinshen]

Not on occupied Assyrian lands.

[Applesandoranges]

I dont support it at all, since i dont see it happen in Turkey or Iran. How would they claim those lands from what are superpowers in middleeast?

Kurds in Syria and especially Iraq are just lucky because of western intervention. Otherwise kurdistan would never had existed

[Odelia]

Not on occupied Assyrian lands.

Kurds are far from angels, but they have a right to be there just as much as Assyrians do! They have historic ties to the land just as much you guys do. The iranic ethnic groups from northwestern iran have reached northern iraq in history, such as as the medes in mesopotamia. Semites weren't the only ones there!

Oh and sorry to say that assyrians are confused people after my experience with them here in Detroit! They're awesome mind you, but they call themselves so many names that I don't know whether to laugh or pity them, like aramean, syriac, iraqi/syrian christian, chaldean...There is an identity crisis within the group that confuses foreigners who want to study them. Whilst i prefer an assyrian company over a muslim kurd, I have to call a spade a spade, because at least kurds are more united with one name, and as well as Jews (mizrahi, ashkenazi, etc, they're all united by the Jewish name). I also don't think you're of pure akkadian and ancient assyrian descent, and this is why you guys are divided on the name because you're also not too certain of your own history. You guys speaking aramaic kinda hints that you have predominant Aramean ancestry. You also look more like lebanese and syrians than you do Iraqi arabs, mandeans and Iranians.

Your history is very confusing and even modern historians don't quite assert you're actual descendants of ancient assyrians, and instead they phrase it like "modern Assyrians believe they're descended from ancient assyrians and akkadians". I mean it's sad, and I hope it is one day proven who you guys are actually descended from, and if it's ancient assyrians or not.

[chinshen]

Kurds are far from angels, but they have a right to be there just as much as Assyrians do! They have historic ties to the land just as much you guys do. The iranic ethnic groups from northwestern iran have reached northern iraq in history, such as as the medes in mesopotamia. Semites weren't the only ones there!

Oh and sorry to say that assyrians are confused people after my experience with them here in Detroit! They're awesome mind you, but they call themselves so many names that I don't know whether to laugh or pity them, like aramean, syriac, iraqi/syrian christian, chaldean...There is an identity crisis within the group that confuses foreigners who want to study them. Whilst i prefer an assyrian company over a muslim kurd, I have to call a spade a spade, because at least kurds are more united with one name, and as well as Jews (mizrahi, ashkenazi, etc, they're all united by the Jewish name). I also don't think you're of pure akkadian and ancient assyrian descent, and this is why you guys are divided on the name because you're also not too certain of your own history. You guys speaking aramaic kinda hints that you have predominant Aramean ancestry. You also look more like lebanese and syrians than you do Iraqi arabs, mandeans and Iranians.

Your history is very confusing and even modern historians don't quite assert you're actual descendants of ancient assyrians, and instead they phrase it like "modern Assyrians believe they're descended from ancient assyrians and akkadians". I mean it's sad, and I hope it is one day proven who you guys are actually descended from, and if it's ancient assyrians or not.

stop talking from your ass about things that you know nothing about.
We don't claim to be Akkadians or any other shit group. We know who we are, and we know that we descent from ancient Assyrians and don't need to prove to any idiots like yourself our history or our connection to our ancient lands.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

As long as its on Mars and I dont ever have to see a Kurd in my life again I`m all for it.

[Demhat]

Only haters and butthurt Heimscheißer would say no.

[Demhat]

I dont support it at all, since i dont see it happen in Turkey or Iran. How would they claim those lands from what are superpowers in middleeast?

Kurds in Syria and especially Iraq are just lucky because of western intervention. Otherwise kurdistan would never had existed

Funny considering that the current borders of your Middle East and the defence of those borders are just based on the colonialization by these superpowers and the weapons they sold to these new states. Speak for yourself or shut up if you have nothing to contribute you absolute clown. Oh and post under your own flag you wannabe Taliban.

And than to have the audacity to talk about lucky and western intervention. If we were lucky with western intervention we would have dozen of states like Arabs right now or at least be armed to the teeth. "lucky"... said the absolute tool. Lucky is the one who can bomb you from the sky with western made F16 and newer jets and drones they copied from Israel. While you have to fight with AKs

[Babak]

I knew this thread would turn into a shitfest lol

[Odelia]

stop talking from your ass about things that you know nothing about.
We don't claim to be Akkadians or any other shit group. We know who we are, and we know that we descent from ancient Assyrians and don't need to prove to any idiots like yourself our history or our connection to our ancient lands.

Oh look, you're proving my point more and more you dimwit! Now you're not claiming to be a Akkadian? FFS, 50% of y'all claim akkadian decent as well, just as you do Babylonian and Sumerian! Fix your identity crisis first and then come at me like an angry teenager! You guys can be something out of Fight Club with your split personalities sometimes. Yes you idiot, you need to prove your assertions or else no one will take you fucking seriously, particularly in the history book! Stop dreaming and talking out of your ass yourself, just fucking prove your shit and we will accept you as what you are, my aramean/assyrian/akkadian/syriac/chaldean/[insert more mesopotamian names], brethren!

[Applesandoranges]

Funny considering that the current borders of your Middle East and the defence of those borders are just based on the colonialization by these superpowers and the weapons they sold to these new states. Speak for yourself or shut up if you have nothing to contribute you absolute clown. Oh and post under your own flag you wannabe Taliban.

And than to have the audacity to talk about lucky and western intervention. If we were lucky with western intervention we would have dozen of states like Arabs right now or at least be armed to the teeth. "lucky"... said the absolute tool. Lucky is the one who can bomb you from the sky with western made F16 and newer jets and drones they copied from Israel. While you have to fight with AKs

Dude, if US never fucked up Saddam, i dont think there would even be a kurdistan province in iraq.

Youre right about colonization, but i still dont see at all how kurds would wrestle lands from iran and turkey. I just dont. Im not against it(seriously, all power to the kurds), i just dont support it. I dont support any ethno-states, no matter what, if it means to topple "superpowers". No personal feelings here(if i knew they could do it, and most kurds support it, which im not even sure, got an impression that such wish for ethno-state is amongst a minority of kurds only in both Iran and turkey by non-kurds from these countries, but im not fully sure? If so, i would support it), so you dont need to get personal either.

I would rather support "kurdistan" as a province instead in each country, like theyre sort of now in turkey and Iran(if you can call them that), rather than as a ethno-state(which i get the impression kurdistan is meant to be).



Arent US funding you guys? If youre indeed just fighting with AK's, thats something though, not sure how much an impact US support have for kurds
https://www.euractiv.com/section/glo...turkish-drone/