Which Religions are compatible with European preservation?

[Aemma]

From our own culture. In my original post I was saying that there are some people who are already inspiring - look at Nick Griffin and what he is doing. It is more than just politics, I think.

Ok thanks Fortis!

Cheers!...Aemma

[Sarmata]

Could a Muslim/Hindu of European decent ever be a preservationist? Does the nearly 2000 years that Christianity has been here entitle it to a spot or is it still alien? Just how long does a religion need to be present for it to become part of the culture worth preserving?

Personally I believe that any of the Celtic, Nordic and Germanic indigenous religions are best but because Christianity has been here so long and mixed so much with the aforementioned religions that it also counts.

It's multiple choice because I realise there will be a mix!

I think that best religion is no religion, rational view of the metters like preservation of our people could be most sensible. There are also people like WCOTC who promote "creativity"- some kind of racial(atheistic in fact) religion...but Im not convinceing to any form of religion

[Sarmata]

P.S. what about the slavic indigenous religion? If we want to talk about Europe, that should be added in the poll as well..

Well in my country existed a group of few people("Rodzimowiercy") who try to reconstruct Slavic indigenous religion...It's hard to believed that old Slavic gods may rise again...At first indigenous Slavic religion was destroyed and absorbed by christianity(unfortunatelly we haven't got our own Snorri Sturluson like our germanic cousins), second my Nation is completly "catholicized"(Im not quite sure if that word existed). But activity of Slavic pagans is good for my people couse they research roots of our/Slavic original culture. It's good for preservation of people or folk or Nation to know about their own culture let it be even pagan,archaic religion.

[SuuT]

Interesting question.

Obviously heathenism is preferable, but there are those who would argue strongly in favour of Christianity, based on the last 1,500 years of Christian history in Europe.

On an individual level, my view is that religion is anyone's personal preference -- whatever it is.[...]

Islam...?

I chose to be an atheist, so religion is irrelevant to me. I actually dislike all organised religion, since I do not want to dance to the tune of the top dogs who think they can manipulate the lower masses with their self-devised dogma.

(Roughly) 95% of the WORLD finds 'religion' not only "relevant"; but, the foundation upon which they construct their respective being in this world: without the power to change this, what does your individual penchant matter...?

Hinduism is interesting, as this religion has its roots in the most ancient Aryan culture -- and is most certainly Europoid in origin. Of course all these millennia on the Indian subcontinent has shaped it into something distinctly unEuropean -- however the core principles remain the same.

It is, in fact, the "core principles" that have changed the most, in concert with the Racial overture that has left the Chandala in - en toto - control (for roughly 1.000 years) of the 'evolution' of our most written about I.E. strain. Which, ipso facto makes it the most distorted as per the oriri of Indo-European thought. C.f. the ancient devotees of Indra as prime...

P.S. what about the slavic indigenous religion? If we want to talk about Europe, that should be added in the poll as well..

There is no such demonstrable thing: that is the problem. Many a Slav will argue this, no doubt - and yet truth remains truth.

[...] They're the indigenous faiths of southern Europe, polytheistic, with many similarities/correspondences to the northern ones. Not the same? Surely not. Each religion has it's own distinctive features.

Southern Evropine "faiths" are distinct to the point of mutual exclusivity; provided one known the historicity of their composition.

If it were up to me, I'd also include Finnish Paganism. It may not be a part of the IE family but it has much more in common with the indigenous european religions than Christianity has with the indigenous european religions. The Christian God is more alien to Europe than the Finnish Gods are.

We agree.

Also, I'm the jerk that voted for Asian. I meant Hinduism.

[...] Not that Hinduism is 100% compatible with european preservation....but it is still more compatible than semitic religions.

Really...? How so?; especialy given that Christianity is so 'accepted'/practiced within the definitive confines of Evropa?

I don't want to insult anyone by this post, btw...I respect everyone's faith, I'm just explaining my stance...

Insults are the vehicle of providence.

Ok, I ticked the lot except Islam.

I do not like them much, but within both traditional Christianity and Judaism there is a theological basis for nationalism. Islam just does not have that.

Really...? Islam encompases an entire realm of not only Weltanschauung; but, and what is more, an Oligarchic/Tolatalitarian systemic Modus Operandi method of running the entirety of existence. - How could this possibly not include Nationalism...?

[FONT=Book Antiqua]Well.. first of all I believe in freedom of religion but I do realise that some religions are not just alien to us- but also hostile.
I think that Shamanism and Heathenism (including Wicca) are preferable but Christianity has been around since the early Middle Ages and has gained ground so much that it can be considered to be a European religion (I make exception for those peculiar brands of Christianity like the Jehovah's Withnesses and the highly commercialised Evangelical non-sense).

Given enough time, ALL 'Faiths" are " 'indeginous'... No? - Where am I innaccuarate...?

Hinduism could fill in the blanks that Germanic heathenry has.

This is exactly la probleme: it is not "answers" that he and/or she that is not Semetic - in disposition - seeks. - 'We' arm ourselves with questions that give rise to indigenous principle.

[Loki]

(Roughly) 95% of the WORLD finds 'religion' not only "relevant"; but, the foundation upon which they construct their respective being in this world: without the power to change this, what does your individual penchant matter...?

I choose to go with the wisdom of the 12-15% of the world's population who have chosen to think for themselves and have discarded superstition. The opiate of the masses does not necessarily have to entice me.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Really...? Islam encompases an entire realm of not only Weltanschauung; but, and what is more, an Oligarchic/Tolatalitarian systemic Modus Operandi method of running the entirety of existence. - How could this possibly not include Nationalism...?

Islamists ultimately want to create a huge united Islamic imperium.

Sunni Islam is surely Arab imperialism.

Shiite Islamists still want to take over the whole world.

I do not think that nationalism and imperialism are compatible.

[YggsVinr]

I chose the first two options since, last I checked, both options are European. Anyways, I was going to check Christianity as well but I'm a little torn, since Christianity quickly became an amalgamation of Jewish and various European traditions (predominantly Greek, Germanic, and Celtic). Just as Islam was shaped by the Arab people, so was Christianity, to an extent, shaped by Europeans. Hell, the Crusades would have likely never happened if that weren't true. Then again, Judaism is Christianity's base despite its Europeanization. Its a tough call, really.

[SPQR]

European pagan pre-christian faiths for sure, and even though I hate christianity to no end, I have to admit it has it's place with the european people.

[Loddfafner]

There is nothing intrinsically folkish (or anything at all) about any religion. It comes down to how one uses it. While most tendencies of Christianity hold us back, it has been the focus of long centuries of European history and has absorbed its best minds for generations. Much as I am wary of Christian influence, I checked the box for Christianity here for one simple reason: gothic cathedrals.

I also checked both northern and southern pagan options, as that is where I feel most hopeful, although I doubt they will ever work out as majority religions. That may be for the better as fluff-bunny Wiccanism shows that paganism can be every bit as detrimental as any other faith. Also, I fear that some lunatic will try to bring back human sacrifices.

Creativity is, I feel, a worse option than even Islam. Despite its rhetoric, it only serves two real ends: rituals for white prison gangs and fundraising for ADL and SPLC. I have posted enough already about how it brings down individuals who come within its orbit.

[Thorum]

I would have to say, no religions. If Europe is to prosper as "European", get rid of the mystical, irrational and ancient dogma begun centuries ago. Embrace the advancement of Europe through rationality and science. Use the embarrassing and ridiculous example of religion in the USA.

Since, that won't happen, I would have to agree that indigenous religions would be the next best thing.