Classify another Baltic looking Tatar girl

[meiliren]

Tatars never called themselves Bulgars.

[meiliren]

I see nothing but communists oppressing national identity, as usual.
The whole concept of the USSR was like that.

"The census 1897 y in Kazan Governorate".

https://www.tataroved.ru/publication/tprobl/10

There was still no Lenin and Communists.

Just show me "Bulgars" in these books and I will say you're right.

[meiliren]

Isn't her eye-eyebrows distance Alpine ?

She is 100% Coon's textbook East Baltic.

Alpine is very rare among East Slavs.

[The Blade]

Tatars never called themselves Bulgars.

What further evidence do you want?
"The group as a whole accepted the exonym "Tatars" (finally in the end of the 19th century; although the name Bulgars persisted in some places; the majority identified themselves simply as the Muslims)."
"Tatars" is an exonym, a name they were called by others.
The name they kept using is their actual one - Bulgars. Point.
In Russia there wasn't until recently a possibility to mark yourself as Bulgarian in a census even nowadays.
Do you think I don't know that?
And yet, people want a republic of their own:
https://frognews.bg/novini/treta-rep...balgariia.html
"Чувашите определят себе си като потомци на древните Българи и като част от една от Българските държави, имала статут на империя. Република Чувашия е част oт Руската федерация и граничи с друга държава, в която също жителите искат да бъдат официално признати за Българи. Чувашия е част от древната империя, съществувала под името Велика България, която днес познаваме като Волжко-Камска България или Волжка България, пишат руски медии."
Basically, Chuvash people consider themselves descendants of ancient Bulgars and want to be recognized as such.
"Република Татарстан също е част от тази бивша империя. Тамошните Българи, които са били подложени на изтребление и разселване са били насилствено преименувани на “татари”. През XX век републиката е просъществувала за две години под името Булгарлък."
It's clearly said "Tatars" was a name Volga Bulgarians were violently forced to accept. For 2 years there was even a country named Bulgarlak.

[meiliren]

What further evidence do you want?
"The group as a whole accepted the exonym "Tatars" (finally in the end of the 19th century; although the name Bulgars persisted in some places; the majority identified themselves simply as the Muslims)."
"Tatars" is an exonym, a name they were called by others.
The name they kept using is their actual one - Bulgars. Point.
In Russia there wasn't until recently a possibility to mark yourself as Bulgarian in a census even nowadays.
Do you think I don't know that?
And yet, people want a republic of their own:
https://frognews.bg/novini/treta-rep...balgariia.html
"Чувашите определят себе си като потомци на древните Българи и като част от една от Българските държави, имала статут на империя. Република Чувашия е част oт Руската федерация и граничи с друга държава, в която също жителите искат да бъдат официално признати за Българи. Чувашия е част от древната империя, съществувала под името Велика България, която днес познаваме като Волжко-Камска България или Волжка България, пишат руски медии."
Basically, Chuvash people consider themselves descendants of ancient Bulgars and want to be recognized as such.
"Република Татарстан също е част от тази бивша империя. Тамошните Българи, които са били подложени на изтребление и разселване са били насилствено преименувани на “татари”. През XX век републиката е просъществувала за две години под името Булгарлък."
It's clearly said "Tatars" was a name Volga Bulgarians were violently forced to accept. For 2 years there was even a country named Bulgarlak.

And again.

"The census 1897 y in Kazan Governorate".

https://www.tataroved.ru/publication/tprobl/10

There was still no Lenin and Communists.

Just show me "Bulgars" in these books and I will say you're right.

[meiliren]

"Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов"

1602-1603 years.

Just show me "Bulgars" and I will say you're right.

[meiliren]

The "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" contains information about the Chuvash, Mari, Udmurts and the ruling Muslim class who called themselves Muslims.

But in "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" there is no information about the "Bulgars".

[The Blade]

The "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" contains information about the Chuvash, Mari, Udmurts and the ruling Muslim class who called themselves Muslims.

But in "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" there is no information about the "Bulgars".

"The group as a whole accepted the exonym "Tatars" (finally in the end of the 19th century; although the name Bulgars persisted in some places; the majority identified themselves simply as the Muslims) and the language of the Kipchaks; on the other hand, the invaders eventually converted to Islam. As the Horde disintegrated in the 15th century, the area became the territory of the Kazan khanate, which was ultimately conquered by Russia in the 16th century."
Already clarified that on previous page.

[meiliren]

"The group as a whole accepted the exonym "Tatars" (finally in the end of the 19th century; although the name Bulgars persisted in some places; the majority identified themselves simply as the Muslims) and the language of the Kipchaks; on the other hand, the invaders eventually converted to Islam. As the Horde disintegrated in the 15th century, the area became the territory of the Kazan khanate, which was ultimately conquered by Russia in the 16th century."
Already clarified that on previous page.

"Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов"

1602-1603 years.

Just show me "Bulgars" and I will say you're right.

The "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" contains information about the Chuvash, Mari, Udmurts and the ruling Muslim class who called themselves Muslims.

But in "Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов" there is no information about the "Bulgars".

[meiliren]

We have no documentary sources to claim that the Tatars ever called themselves Bulgars.