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    North Italians and Iberians are basically indistinguishable from each other in terms of deep admixture ratio, except for somewhat higher steppe in the former and North African in Iberians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    North Italians and Iberians are basically indistinguishable from each other in terms of deep admixture ratio, except for somewhat higher steppe in the former and North African in Iberians.
    Then why there are so many phenotypes in Northern Italy that don't seens to be common in Iberia? Like alpines, dinarids, subnordids and norics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    North-Italians have more germanic influence? South-Italians are darkwashed, I think.
    North Italians plot south of Iberians, and are very close genetically to Bell Beaker populations from North Italy, they are not mixed with Germanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    Then why there are so many phenotypes in Northern Italy that don't seens to be common in Iberia? Like alpines, dinarids, subnordids and norics?
    Northern Italians seems to share more drift with North-Central Europeans (Germans, Austrians), Iberians with Northwestern Europeans (Irish, Scottish). Draw your own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    North Italians plot south of Iberians, and are very close genetically to Bell Beaker populations from North Italy, they are not mixed with Germanics.
    I'm talking about phenotypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    Because MENA admix is too strong in Iberians, i guess.
    Stop shitposting and try to inform yourself about the genetic composition of the populations, there's plenty of info around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    North Italians plot south of Iberians, and are very close genetically to Bell Beaker populations from North Italy, they are not mixed with Germanics.
    Are Iberians considered closer to Northern Europeans than Northern Italians because there are considerable med influence in North Europe( specially Northwestern Europe) while there are not so much Central European influence in Northern Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    North Italians plot south of Iberians, and are very close genetically to Bell Beaker populations from North Italy, they are not mixed with Germanics.
    Following this same logic the Irish wouldn't have received any Viking or Celtic input because they are genetically still very close/indistinguishable from British Beakers. I think you draw too much conclusions with too few samples.

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    Because northern Italy borders Germanic and Slavic countries. It's logical to have lighter features. Spain borders Portugal and Southern France.

    I'm no expert, though. Here in Argentina (and in my family) "Gallegos" (Spaniards) are generally darker than "Gringos" (Northern Italians), who were generally tall, blond/red/brown haired and light-eyed.
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    The north of Italy has border with Switzerland and Austria (Germanic countries), so it is logical that there are more phenotypes of Germanic influence and light in the northern Italians than in the Iberians, if Iberia had a border with Germany or some other Germanic country , the Iberians would also have influence on the phenotypes with the Germanics because of the proximity.

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