Radical feminism promotes lesbianism in women

[Ruggery]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_lesbianism

New wave feminism[when defined as?] provided a platform for some women to come out of a perceived suffocating shell of heterosexual norms, traditional sexuality, marriage and family life, a life viewed by some feminists[according to whom?] as one of hard labor with little consideration and a system that subordinates women. By coming out of dominating heterosexual relationships, women are given an opportunity to declare themselves as lesbians with shared interests. As a result, feminism would be able to provide an environment in which lesbianism was less about personal pain or anguish but an important political issue.

In a broad sense, political lesbianism entails the political identification of women with women, it encompasses a role beyond sexuality but supports eschewing forming relationships with men. It is partly based on the idea that women sharing and promoting a common interest creates a positive and needed energy which is necessary to enhance and elevate the role of women in the society, a development which will be curtailed by the institutions of heterosexuality and sexism if women choose the traditional norms.

Though there was some discrimination against lesbians within the feminist movement, it ended up providing a needed political platform for them. In its wake, it also expanded and introduced divergent views of sexuality

Some feminist theory on sexuality evaded biological fixation and embraced social construction as the basis of sexuality. However, this idea posed further questions on the subject of sexuality and lesbianism. If sexuality could be a construction of human nature then little room is given to understanding the nature of the historical formation of human nature, especially, if the historical nature of man or woman enhanced heterosexuality.[8] A lack of theoretical clarity of lesbianism and sexuality becomes more profound as sexuality is viewed as much more than choice.[13][14] Also, if lesbianism becomes a social institution, the avenue for a dominant persona in the relationships may also pose challenge to the original intention of political lesbianism.

In short, this feminism insists that women do not have relationships with men, neither sexual nor loving, nor friendships. In my opinion, the only people who get hurt with that are the movement's own women.

In addition, this ideology believes that sexual orientation and gender are social constructions, and people are heterosexual on the part of society.

[Anthony PV]

Radical feminists promote exclusive lesbianism among women, heh? A slick salesman can make a killing selling them two-headed dildos...

[The Lawspeaker]

Another one of their pet projects that will fail.

[Jägerstaffel]

Radical feminists promote exclusive lesbianism among women, heh? A slick salesman can make a killing selling them two-headed dildos...

Slick and dildos in the same sentence. Heh.

[Ruggery]

Radical feminists promote exclusive lesbianism among women, heh? A slick salesman can make a killing selling them two-headed dildos...

It sounds a bit strange but radical feminists hate that transgender women are part of the feminist movement.
Political lesbianism also hates trans women (for having a penis)
And they also hate all kinds of men (white, black, heterosexual, gay, etc)

[Ruggery]

Another one of their pet projects that will fail.

This ideology even generates divisions within the feminist movement itself, it is clearer that political lesbianism will fail and probably radical feminism will also.

[Mingle]

Radical feminists defy the liberals that claim homosexuality isn't a choice. They are very up front about the fact that they chose to be lesbian and other women can also choose to be lesbian.

http://www.lespantheresroses.org/aut...eertheory.html

They call such people "women-identified-women".

They even had their own communities before, they still do but they're relatively rarer now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womyn%27s_land

Most of them are feminist separatists and believe in the above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_feminism

There was one that wanted lady named Valerie Solanas that wanted to get rid of men and many radfems speak positively of her. BTW, she once had a conference about it and only guys showed up. She was very pissed and said they were a bunch of perverted masochists lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto

The good thing about them is they're anti-trans and not all radical feminists are like this, its just a significant minority (usually ones that turned lesbian after being abused by men as children). There are radfem lesbos on YouTube that talk about the destruction of lesbian culture and think that lesbians may go extinct. They know that lesbianism is a choice and that nobody is born homo so they are scared of everybody turning bisexual in the future.

The only reason that a minority of lesbians become radical feminist and are so obsessed with the idea is because they want to end the "heteropatriarchy" and thus heterosexuality as a whole. Radfem lesbians only oppose porn, prostitution, etc. because it promotes heterosexuality. They do it under the fake guise of "protecting women" but their ultimate goal is converting more women to their unnatural immoral sex cult (lesbianism).

They also oppose transgenderism only because they feel that the people promoting transgenderism are changing the sexuality of lesbians. For example, when a male mutilates his genitals and "becomes a woman" and identifies as "lesbian", then when he dates women identifying as lesbian, he is "destroying lesbianism" because him engaging with a lesbian-identified woman is basically straight sex since its really a biological male and a biological female being in a relationship even if they both identify as lesbian. Gay males have a similar issue so this is part of the reason some of them turn to the "TERF" movement (TERF stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminism) despite it being extremely anti-male (although most radfem gays are anti-male themselves so it doesn't make a difference to them).

Anyways, these people prove all the misogynist MGTOW strawmans correct about women wishing all men should die (since many of them want that). I didn't believe it at first till I stumbled upon these people online myself. But even within radfems, they're a minority. I once told a non-radfem lesbian about them and she said that such people don't exist. Most lesbians are completely unaware of them.

But yes, lesbianism started off as a political movement and was originally distinct from the gay movement (which openly promoted pedophilia until the mid-80's).

[Ruggery]

Radical feminists defy the liberals that claim homosexuality isn't a choice. They are very up front about the fact that they chose to be lesbian and other women can also choose to be lesbian.

http://www.lespantheresroses.org/aut...eertheory.html

They call such people "women-identified-women".

They even had their own communities before, they still do but they're relatively rarer now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womyn%27s_land

Most of them are feminist separatists and believe in the above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_feminism

There was one that wanted lady named Valerie Solanas that wanted to get rid of men and many radfems speak positively of her. BTW, she once had a conference about it and only guys showed up. She was very pissed and said they were a bunch of perverted masochists lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto

The good thing about them is they're anti-trans and not all radical feminists are like this, its just a significant minority (usually ones that turned lesbian after being abused by men as children). There are radfem lesbos on YouTube that talk about the destruction of lesbian culture and think that lesbians may go extinct. They know that lesbianism is a choice and that nobody is born homo so they are scared of everybody turning bisexual in the future.

The only reason that a minority of lesbians become radical feminist and are so obsessed with the idea is because they want to end the "heteropatriarchy" and thus heterosexuality as a whole. Radfem lesbians only oppose porn, prostitution, etc. because it promotes heterosexuality. They do it under the fake guise of "protecting women" but their ultimate goal is converting more women to their unnatural immoral sex cult (lesbianism).

They also oppose transgenderism only because they feel that the people promoting transgenderism are changing the sexuality of lesbians. For example, when a male mutilates his genitals and "becomes a woman" and identifies as "lesbian", then when he dates women identifying as lesbian, he is "destroying lesbianism" because him engaging with a lesbian-identified woman is basically straight sex since its really a biological male and a biological female being in a relationship even if they both identify as lesbian. Gay males have a similar issue so this is part of the reason some of them turn to the "TERF" movement (TERF stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminism) despite it being extremely anti-male (although most radfem gays are anti-male themselves so it doesn't make a difference to them).

Anyways, these people prove all the misogynist MGTOW strawmans correct about women wishing all men should die (since many of them want that). I didn't believe it at first till I stumbled upon these people online myself. But even within radfems, they're a minority. I once told a non-radfem lesbian about them and she said that such people don't exist. Most lesbians are completely unaware of them.

But yes, lesbianism started off as a political movement and was originally distinct from the gay movement (which openly promoted pedophilia until the mid-80's).

And what do you think about political lesbianism? about the fact that all women can become lesbian politicians, I am confused because there are some who do not refer to sexual orientation but to coexistence and social relationships with men (that's why they say that a heterosexual woman can be a political lesbian) but there are others who say literally that a straight woman can choose to be a lesbian politician and have romantic and sexual relationships with other women.

If it is about the first then I think it is something extremist but acceptable, but if it is the second it would be too harmful for heterosexual women and some bisexual women who feel a lot of attraction for men.

[Mingle]

And what do you think about political lesbianism? about the fact that all women can become lesbian politicians, I am confused because there are some who do not refer to sexual orientation but to coexistence and social relationships with men (that's why they say that a heterosexual woman can be a political lesbian) but there are others who say literally that a straight woman can choose to be a lesbian politician and have romantic and sexual relationships with other women.

If it is about the first then I think it is something extremist but acceptable, but if it is the second it would be too harmful for heterosexual women and some bisexual women who feel a lot of attraction for men.

Political lesbianism has nothing to do with "politicians". Political lesbians are women that choose to become lesbians for political reasons.

When they say that a heterosexual woman can become a political lesbian, they mean that the heterosexual woman should marry a woman, have sex with women, etc. and live life like how a lesbian woman would. Why? Because of political reasons? What are the these political reasons? Opposing the heteropatriarchy.

According to radfem lesbians, the reason that all woman aren't lesbians is because they are shamed into thinking lesbianism is immoral from a young age and being straight means that you are a misogynist brainwashed from a young age into hating the female body (while loving the male body) and this is the reason most women are straight. Thus, becoming a political lesbian is opposing that "misogynist brainwashing". They believe all people are born pansexual but are brainwashed into being straight by the "heteropatriarchy" so that men can stay in power and continue ruling the world and have all the power. I would link a website about this stuff, but I last read this around 2 or so years ago and can't remember the website's name anymore.

By the way, one of the arguments they have against heterosexuality being natural is that the animals that often engage in it (in the animal kingdom) do it through males forcing themselves on the females and they think all species should be female and that males are an evolutionary mistake.

Another thing to note is that these people (who represent a minority of radfems, albeit a significant one) were more prominent during second wave feminism. Mentioning this cause there are some users who like to praise 2nd wave feminism as if it was full of angels while they also stereotype all 3rd wave feminists as extremist male haters. More extremists existed among 2nd wave feminists than among 3rd wave ones. Since women were more oppressed back then, they had more crazy people.

There are some less extreme radfem lesbians who say that you shouldn't be lesbian if you find the thought of having a lesbian relationship gross/disturbing but you shouldn't date men. You should either date women or nobody according to them.

There are similar gays who hate women to the core and they become gay as a result of their woman-hatred (like these women who become lesbian as a result of their man-hatred), but they're much less significant and a different topic.

[Ruggery]

Political lesbianism has nothing to do with "politicians". Political lesbians are women that choose to become lesbians for political reasons.

When they say that a heterosexual woman can become a political lesbian, they mean that the heterosexual woman should marry a woman, have sex with women, etc. and live life like how a lesbian woman would. Why? Because of political reasons? What are the these political reasons? Opposing the heteropatriarchy.

According to radfem lesbians, the reason that all woman aren't lesbians is because they are shamed into thinking lesbianism is immoral from a young age and being straight means that you are a misogynist brainwashed from a young age into hating the female body (while loving the male body) and this is the reason most women are straight. Thus, becoming a political lesbian is opposing that "misogynist brainwashing". They believe all people are born pansexual but are brainwashed into being straight by the "heteropatriarchy" so that men can stay in power and continue ruling the world and have all the power. I would link a website about this stuff, but I last read this around 2 or so years ago and can't remember the website's name anymore.

By the way, one of the arguments they have against heterosexuality being natural is that the animals that often engage in it (in the animal kingdom) do it through males forcing themselves on the females and they think all species should be female and that males are an evolutionary mistake.

Another thing to note is that these people (who represent a minority of radfems, albeit a significant one) were more prominent during second wave feminism. Mentioning this cause there are some users who like to praise 2nd wave feminism as if it was full of angels while they also stereotype all 3rd wave feminists as extremist male haters. More extremists existed among 2nd wave feminists than among 3rd wave ones. Since women were more oppressed back then, they had more crazy people.

There are some less extreme radfem lesbians who say that you shouldn't be lesbian if you find the thought of having a lesbian relationship gross/disturbing but you shouldn't date men. You should either date women or nobody according to them.

There are similar gays who hate women to the core and they become gay as a result of their woman-hatred (like these women who become lesbian as a result of their man-hatred), but they're much less significant and a different topic.

But it makes more sense for the radical women of the second wave of feminism at that time if it is true that women were more oppressed, but nowadays feminists are bothered by stupid things, such as what they call the WTF Santa Clouse machisms

The political lesbians are among the worst feminists because they hate men directly (they do not mind expressing it) and do not want women to establish any kind of relationship with men; In short, they want all women to be women, even if they are women. . against your will

Once I read on twitter a radical bisexual feminist from Argentina who became a lesbian politician, because in one of her relationships her former partner mistreated her, and now she hates men and only dates women, she mentioned that she was Radfem ( radical feminist). I should be a lesbian politician because if you go out and sleep with a man, you sleep with the enemy and this comment does not like many women.

Nor would I be impressed that there is a gay misogynist movement, both are very toxic because of their hatred.