What do you think of MGTOW?

**Radimir** · 09-11-2021, 10:51 PM

Well, it depends on which MGTOW you are referring to. Genuine celibates are usually successful in life because they spend their precious time meeting the requirements for essential needs that actually matter in their lives like focusing on their career and making money or improving their looks, by eating right and getting fit instead of pursuing women. There is nothing wrong with that and it's actually a good thing in the long run, because you will feel good about yourself being an accomplished man and you may even find yourself being attractive to women whom when they look at you, they are going to see a physically fit and successful man who has his shit together.

The MGTOW you are most likely referring to on the other hand are contradictory in their actions, despite the anti-women views. They obsess over women and will spend most of their time focusing on them. Besides the blatant hypocrisy, they are also bitter, lazy and very selfish. They demand that women put up with their complacency and do not try to improve themselves, and it's not just improving their looks, their personalities are very toxic and nasty as well. Just go on YouTube and watch a video of theirs for a minute. I mean lol it's no wonder women don't want them. They are just angry and bitter losers. Especially the old ass dudes on there who should be in a rocking chair with a cup of coffee and playing with the grandkids.

**Autrigón** · 09-11-2021, 11:11 PM

Thanks to feminism I am more MGTOW.

**~~Getae~~** · 09-11-2021, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Autrigón

Thanks to feminism I am more MGTOW.

I used to hate feminism in the west but western people have been pissing me off too much lately so now I’m super pro feminism because I know it will lead to their destruction. For me I am somewhat woggish and ambiguous looking so I can escape to the Middle East as the west collapses and start my life as a devoted Muslim there. So it’s all good.

**Autrigón** · 09-11-2021, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Getae

I used to hate feminism in the west but western people have been pissing me off too much lately so now I’m super pro feminism because I know it will lead to their destruction. For me I am somewhat woggish and ambiguous looking so I can escape to the Middle East as the west collapses and start my life as a devoted Muslim there. So it’s all good.

Good idea! I will be muslim too and maybe a I will marry with 10 women. Then I will be my own style of MGTOW=Men Get Tons Of Women

**axel.aleman** · 09-11-2021, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Radimir

Well, it depends on which MGTOW you are referring to. Genuine celibates are usually successful in life because they spend their precious time meeting the requirements for essential needs that actually matter in their lives like focusing on their career and making money or improving their looks, by eating right and getting fit instead of pursuing women. There is nothing wrong with that and it's actually a good thing in the long run, because you will feel good about yourself being an accomplished man and you may even find yourself being attractive to women whom when they look at you, they are going to see a physically fit and successful man who has his shit together.

The MGTOW you are most likely referring to on the other hand are contradictory in their actions, despite the anti-women views. They obsess over women and will spend most of their time focusing on them. Besides the blatant hypocrisy, they are also bitter, lazy and very selfish. They demand that women put up with their complacency and do not try to improve themselves, and it's not just improving their looks, their personalities are very toxic and nasty as well. Just go on YouTube and watch a video of theirs for a minute. I mean lol it's no wonder women don't want them. They are just angry and bitter losers. Especially the old ass dudes on there who should be in a rocking chair with a cup of coffee and playing with the grandkids.

I respect celibate of religious purpose but not mgtow and incel(synonyms in reality)

**sean** · 09-12-2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Getae

You’re like a woman who places all blame on the men. Simple questions can cut through your entire bullshit post. Are most women in 2021 marriage material? Nope. Most women’s body counts are too high to ever be able to pair bond. Pair bonding is the only way a marriage can work.

Daos, there are still women decent enough to marry and start families with out there. Women are actually slightly less degenerate than men. It's slightly harder for a woman to find a guy waiting until marriage than vice versa. The stats on stuff like prostitution aren't even close.

Marriage material is a woman whom you can trust to be a moral example for your children. She might have some fanciful ideas, but if she's good enough to save herself for marriage, it won't be an issue with you there.

Also, I'm not advising anyone to marry some 20+ fuck count slut, but while most women were riding the dick in their late teens/early twenties, a lot of the guys here were probably jerking off to all sorts of degenerate porn at those ages. Having sex for a woman is just as easy as pulling up porn on the Internet. Most guys on here would’ve been having tons of sex too if they were capable.

Originally Posted by Getae

Question 2: Are divorce rates low enough for men (average men not incel tier) not to worry about? No! More marriages end in divorce than don’t, and women are the ones initiating the divorces and breaking families apart.

Nope. Divorce rates have been steadily declining since the 80's.

Spoiler!

Overall 22% of Americans in 2009 had ever been divorced. That means 78% had either never been married or never been divorced. They just aren't getting married anymore and 48% of children in the US are born out of wedlock.

Spoiler!

By age 50, 84% of men had been married, while only 29% had been divorced. For women its 87% married by 50, 30% been divorced.

Spoiler!

Of married women in 2009 white women had remained married longer than the average of blacks, asians, and hispanics.

24% of non-hispanic whites were married till their 35th anniversary, and 39% till their 25th. The difference can probably be attributed to husband death more than anything.

Originally Posted by Getae

As far as your shaming tactics for betas wanting to persevere the institution of marriage, that is my number one reason of why I support mgtow (and in turn feminism because of what it does to society), the removal of beta genes need to happen. No more simps, no more worker drone providers, none of that shit, a male of any species doesn’t exist to build society or to provide for a family. A male only exists to have sex with as many women as possible and to outcompete other men at getting pussy. All this society building shit is a mental disorder.

On the other hand, if you can't even attract one woman you're a genetic dead end. You're not a true man until you have a family of your own. Men face a responsibility in not being a bum and at the end of the day, I think its safe to say most women prefer a man that makes a good living than a man that doesn't.

I personally view one quality of masculinity as their ability to provide for their family, to be breadwinners. If you don't want to have children naturally and be proud of being a genetic dead end then just go and fuck whoever you want without mentioning it to anyone who wants to live a normal life without hearing about you and incel blackpill bullshit 24/7. Stop preaching.