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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh right, founded by the Aromanian who just happens to belong to a typical Albanian haplogroup......
    How do you know haplogroup of this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naum_Veqilharxhi

    If he was not Aromanian why he lived in Brăila in Romania?
    Korçë was pred. Aromanian settlement, and Aromanians were always known as more educated than other Balkan people.
    Aromanians as bankers, politicians, freemasons, bussinesmen, merchant... were always elite among other Balkan nations especially among Albanians, Greeks and Romanians, and related with large world corparations of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    How do you know haplogroup of this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naum_Veqilharxhi

    If he was not Aromanian why he lived in Brăila in Romania?
    Korçë was pred. Aromanian settlement, and Aromanians were always known as more educated than other Balkan people.
    Aromanians as bankers, politicians, freemasons, bussinesmen, merchant... were always elite among other Balkan nations especially among Albanians, Greeks and Romanians, and related with large world corparations of course.
    He was from Vithkuq, an Albanian village of Korca. The Arbanasi of Bulgaria claim origin from this village. He went to Romania because Vithkuq was destroyed in 1819, he went and lived in an Albanian community in Romania where he funded the Albanian national awakening and joined an organisation of Albanians. Korca was never predominately Aromanian, only certain villages in the peripheries were. I remember when you called the Frasheri Aromanians, turned out they belonged to a typical Albanian clade of E-V13. You really like to exaggerate the influence Aromanians had, also remember that just because these groups may have been influential in Serbia doesn't mean that they were in Albania.
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    He was from Vithkuq, an Albanian village of Korca. The Arbanasi of Bulgaria claim origin from this village. He went to Romania because Vithkuq was destroyed in 1819, he went and lived in an Albanian community in Romania where he funded the Albanian national awakening and joined an organisation of Albanians. Korca was never predominately Aromanian, only certain villages in the peripheries were. I remember when you called the Frasheri Aromanians, turned out they belonged to a typical Albanian clade of E-V13. You really like to exaggerate the influence Aromanians had, also remember that just because these groups may have been influential in Serbia doesn't mean that they were in Albania.
    Aromanians had influence in politics and bussines in Serbia in 19th and first half of 20th century. Their power was larger in some other Balkan countries.
    Aromanians are powerful even today in Balkans. Aleksandar Vučić, Edi Rama, Victor Ponta and maybe even Tsipras are of Aromanian origin.
    Aromanians are formed in middle age as merchant caste of various ethnic groups. They used Latin language because they were conection in transfer of dirty money between Rome and Constantinople. They became rich of that, not because of cheese trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Aromanians had influence in politics and bussines in Serbia in 19th and first half of 20th century. Their power was larger in some other Balkan countries.
    Aromanians are powerful even today in Balkans. Aleksandar Vučić, Edi Rama, Victor Ponta and maybe even Tsipras are of Aromanian origin.
    Aromanians are formed in middle age as mercant caste of various ethnic groups. They used Latin language because they were conection in transfer of dirty money between Rome and Constantinople. They became rich of that, not because of chease trade.
    Edi Rama isn't Aromanian, idk where people even got that from. The Rama are a family that originate in Berat and have been identifying as Albanian ever since they were recorded.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Edi Rama isn't Aromanian, idk where people even got that from. The Rama are a family that originate in Berat and have been identifying as Albanian ever since they were recorded.
    I heard from some Albanians maybe even here, that father of Edi Rama was Vlach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I heard from some Albanians maybe even here, that father of Edi Rama is Vlach.
    His father was an Albanian called Kristaq Rama that moved from Berat to Durres. There aren't any credible sources that claim his origins as Aromanian or Vlach. He himself says that his family is of Albanian origin from Berat.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Aromanians had influence in politics and bussines in Serbia in 19th and first half of 20th century. Their power was larger in some other Balkan countries.
    Aromanians are powerful even today in Balkans. Aleksandar Vučić, Edi Rama, Victor Ponta and maybe even Tsipras are of Aromanian origin.
    Aromanians are formed in middle age as merchant caste of various ethnic groups. They used Latin language because they were conection in transfer of dirty money between Rome and Constantinople. They became rich of that, not because of cheese trade.
    How do you know Vucic is of Aromanian descent?

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    No, because pride is a cardinal sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dna8 View Post
    How do you know Vucic is of Aromanian descent?

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    Father of Vučić is from Čipuljić village near Bugojno. Aromanians settled to Čipuljić after destruction of Moscopole in 18th century. Vučić family is of Aromanian origin as all families from Čipuljić.

    Muhamed Filipovoć about Aromanian origin of Vučić 1:51:00 - 1:53:00


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Father of Vučić is from Čipuljić village near Bugojno. Aromanians settled to Čipuljić after destruction of Moscopole in 18th century. Vučić family is of Aromanian origin as all families from Čipuljić.
    Muhamed Filipovoć about Aromanian origin of Vučić 1:51:00 - 1:53:00 https://youtu.be/5QMXjpalhmc?t=6660
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