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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Accepting suzerainty of turks is hardly badass but that meant very little to him as he swore fielty today and broke it tomorrow. It was nothing more than means to an end. As for his battles he fought most of his wars without any assistance. He still could've done better if he would've been a little smarter.
    I meant his confidence not vassalization. Btw he was royal to the Ottomans as i remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    I meant his confidence not vassalization. Btw he was royal to the Ottomans as i remember.
    You mean loyal? No, he wasn't. He fought them then he made peace and he fought them again. It went back and forth until his death. The same is true for the other neighbours Hungary and Poland but definitely it's the tuks that he warred with the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Valea Alba was a slaughter house. If the moldavians would've had the same numbers they had at Vaslui they would've won. With only 10000-12000 people (the standing army) they still managed to inflict serious damage and at one point were actually winning the battle. Valea Alba is very much on Stephen who dispersed a part of his army before the confrontation. For an authoritarian ruler he sure went soft and cocked up with that decision.

    The siege of Neamt doesn't get the recognition it deserves, it was the 3rd most important confrontation in this conflict. It was not as deadly but it was certainly very important because if the turks would've managed to take the fortress Moldavia might've fallen. The turks failed and had to eventually retreat.

    On a side note the Kings and Generals channel is excellent. They have quality videos on so many battles. The videos on the Greco-Roman era are particularly good.

    Now I noticed that in that video it says that Stehpen had 30000 at Valea Alba which is wrong, he didn't.
    Yes, Kings and Generals are very good, I watch them since their first video about Battle of Kosovo. But many of videos have plenty of inaccuracies. For example here is said what Mehmet conquered in his campaign from 1476 the Akkerman fortress which is not true, only his son Bayazid will do this 8 years latter. Second video from HistoryMarche I liked more because how was estimated the real number of troops from both sides.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    Btw he was royal to the Ottomans as i remember.
    No, he wasn't, you mistake him with Impaler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    Stephan is underrated, winning against Matias Corvinus and almost defeating Mehmed II is not a simple job.
    Well, he didn't really defeat Mehmed II, but just an Ottoman army who wasn't under his command, only Hunyady defeated him in 1456 in the Battle of Belgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Moldovano View Post
    Well, he didn't really defeat Mehmed II, but just an Ottoman army who wasn't under his command, only Hunyady defeated him in 1456 in the Battle of Belgrade.
    It's miracle that he didn't die that battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    It's miracle that he didn't die that battle.
    Mehmet was a very good military commander but he was also very lucky. He came close to death on at least 3 occasions - Kosovo, Belgarde and Targoviste.

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Moldovano View Post
    Well, he didn't really defeat Mehmed II, but just an Ottoman army who wasn't under his command, only Hunyady defeated him in 1456 in the Battle of Belgrade.
    If we're talking individual battles then The Night Attack at Targoviste can also be counted as a defeat for Mehmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    It's miracle that he didn't die that battle.
    Who? Stephan? In the battle of Vaslui he had all the advantage on his side. First, this battle took place in the middle of winter, weird decision for Ottomans to make wars in this period of year. Another thing is what Stephan was prepared and he knew about the enemy who comes in his country, this is the reason why he had and allies troops. And the last thing who was decisive for victory was the weather. In the day of the battle the valley where this battle took place was covered with dense fog. Stephan was a very religious man, and he believed what this was a sign from the God. I think this is the reason why he did not celebrate the victory, but gave all the credits to the God. The next battle from 1476 was more dramatic for him, this time Ottomans was more prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    It's miracle that he didn't die that battle.
    Now I understand, you speak about Mehmed defeat in the Battle of Belgrade. My bad.

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