G25 calculator of ancient basic components (for fun)

**Daco Celtic** · 01-10-2019, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by celticdragongod

1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
STEPPE EEF LEVANT CENTRAL-ASIA CHG EHG
16.51737 18.59088 24.07328 25.65122 26.05830 26.29996
IRAN SIBERIA
30.68819 33.12181

pen=0

"distance%=2.5694"

DacoCeltic_scaled

STEPPE,48.4
EEF,45.4
WHG,6.2

*****************

pen=0.001

"distance%=2.6027"

DacoCeltic_scaled

STEPPE,49.8
EEF,44.6
WHG,5.6

Thanks!

**Lemgrant** · 01-10-2019, 01:23 PM

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
STEPPE EHG EEF CENTRAL-ASIA CHG LEVANT
14.31086 21.59665 24.32280 27.42214 28.10346 28.65908
SIBERIA WHG
30.14135 32.34902

[1] "distance%=6.319"

Lemgrant_scaled

STEPPE,50.4
EEF,21
WHG,13.8
LEVANT,8.2
EHG,6.6

with pen=0:

[1] "distance%=6.1243"

Lemgrant_scaled

STEPPE,43.8
EEF,33
WHG,12
EHG,11.2

**Daco Celtic** · 01-11-2019, 11:22 PM

Bump

**talombo** · 01-14-2019, 02:35 PM

pen=0
[1] "distance%=2.2472"

EEF,34
LEVANT,24.2
CENTRAL-ASIA,13.4
STEPPE,9.8
CHG,8.6
AFRICA-NORTHWEST,5.2
IRAN,3.4
AFRICA-SOUTHEAST,0.8
DRAVIDIAN,0.6

default pen
[1] "distance%=2.6831"

EEF,34.6
LEVANT,27.8
CHG,8.8
CENTRAL-ASIA,7.8
IRAN,7.2
STEPPE,4.4
AFRICA-NORTHWEST,4.2
DRAVIDIAN,1.4
EHG,1.4
WHG,1.2
AFRICA-SOUTHEAST,0.6
AMERO-ASIATIC,0.4
SIBERIA,0.2

**Lemgrant** · 01-15-2019, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Cumansky

Thanks! Looks accurate too

I finally found how to detect your Jewishness with Davidski's approach. It works only when I add the Italian_Jewish component. Otherwise you get 0% Ashkenazi/Sephardic_Jew. But the thing is...I get the same amount too.

with pen=0:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Slovakian Polish Ukrainian Czech
2.350071 2.956157 3.073602 3.987966
Russian_Smolensk Hungarian German_East Austrian
4.073379 4.673038 5.086482 5.495256

[1] "distance%=1.99"

Cumansky_scaled

Slovakian,76
Latvian,22.4
Italian_Jew,1.6

*****************************************

and my result:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Polish Slovakian Ukrainian Russian_Smolensk
3.159840 3.201510 3.216856 3.698679
Czech Ingrian Latvian Hungarian
4.393714 4.893774 5.033764 5.225823

[1] "distance%=2.3094"

Lemgrant_scaled

Slovakian,54.4
Latvian,25
Ingrian,18
Italian_Jew,1.6
Greek,1

component list:

Code:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC

21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
Albanian,0.120327,0.141594,0.015839,-0.016335,0.025587,-0.006534,0.005103,0.003989,2.9e-

05,0.015204,0.00065,0.001178,-0.006456,0.00871,-0.021521,-

0.006421,0.004787,0.002534,0.008619,-0.006396,-0.004403,0.000742,0.002113,0.003012,-0.000633
English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.03923,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.0056

78,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-

0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
German,0.130263,0.137379,0.057981,0.038707,0.040003,0.015646,0.004067,0.005787,0.003526,0.0018

8,-0.004413,0.002373,-0.005371,-0.002542,0.008513,0.003291,-

0.003273,0.001663,0.003367,0.001719,0.00314,0.002005,7.2e-05,0.008305,0.000277
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0.038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-

0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-

0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
Greek,0.118496,0.143404,0.013338,-0.018615,0.020295,-0.005035,0.001756,4.9e-

05,0.000678,0.013668,0.000239,0.002011,-0.003091,0.007721,-0.016972,-

0.001654,0.008242,0.00058,0.004935,-0.003897,-0.007132,0.001321,0.002348,-0.000932,-0.001317
Czech,0.131385,0.132091,0.060474,0.046881,0.038425,0.018805,0.006211,0.008719,0.004646,-

0.009047,-0.001531,-0.004078,0.005777,0.011875,0.001396,0.000578,-0.000522,-4.5e-

05,0.004067,0.002725,-0.001007,-5.3e-05,0.006567,0.003942,0.001437
Polish,0.132006,0.129252,0.070097,0.05789,0.040685,0.021823,0.008707,0.010811,-0.001064,-

0.018675,-0.004433,-0.006444,0.013231,0.018638,-0.006881,-0.000752,0.001431,-7.6e-

05,0.002725,0.001182,-0.003082,-0.002999,0.005515,-0.00344,9e-05
Russian_Smolensk,0.134454,0.12326,0.072124,0.066336,0.039123,0.024996,0.011604,0.012692,0.0001

02,-0.025399,-0.003532,-0.008823,0.016892,0.029004,-0.009806,-0.007823,-0.003341,-

0.000839,4.7e-05,0.001782,0.000109,-0.004235,0.0059,-0.006402,0.000329
Ukrainian,0.1305,0.124071,0.067947,0.057101,0.03796,0.021123,0.009125,0.010926,-0.003121,-

0.021948,-0.000819,-0.007441,0.015344,0.023827,-0.011235,-0.003009,0.001757,-

0.000193,0.003596,2.2e-05,-0.006141,-0.004521,0.006291,-0.00493,0.000495
Slovakian,0.130441,0.128769,0.062677,0.051486,0.041238,0.020024,0.006768,0.0078,-0.001841,-

0.011554,-0.001916,-0.003747,0.009871,0.010432,-

0.009148,0.009281,0.012934,0.000253,0.00543,0.002351,-0.003718,-0.002077,0.004338,0.001928,-

0.001892
Latvian,0.135449,0.122473,0.088774,0.089471,0.043208,0.034025,0.012597,0.014076,-0.002168,-

0.036885,-0.003573,-0.013818,0.023221,0.031378,-0.010559,0.004057,0.002712,-

0.00038,0.001609,0.004302,-0.002795,-0.005713,0.009071,-0.009327,0.002634
Ingrian,0.129758,0.090044,0.08988,0.07569,0.033032,0.025844,0.009949,0.012999,-0.000614,-

0.026546,0.003194,-0.009891,0.014618,0.005688,-0.002941,0.002696,-0.001608,-0.000591,-

0.004358,0.004961,0.004035,0.000165,0.007477,0.002008,0.003034
Swedish,0.134001,0.128372,0.071533,0.055791,0.04142,0.021323,0.006847,0.008968,0.004695,-

0.006726,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.004831,-0.003691,0.015077,0.003984,-

0.007438,0.002004,0.003851,0.004639,0.006421,0.002136,0.000924,0.010697,-0.000299
Austrian,0.129089,0.135005,0.054394,0.032737,0.034776,0.012567,0.00723,0.006244,0.002827,0.002

755,-0.003878,0.000785,-

0.001294,0.002785,0.000503,0.003697,0.000222,0.00079,0.003179,0.000839,-0.000991,-

0.002655,0.001667,0.002963,-0.001028
Hungarian,0.127055,0.129543,0.055578,0.036741,0.036834,0.012463,0.006845,0.007918,0.001969,-

0.004396,-0.001685,-0.002295,0.003847,0.009401,-0.003758,-0.000762,-0.001377,-8.7e-

05,0.00275,-0.001297,-0.003431,0.001445,0.005415,0.002131,0.000157
Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002

825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-

0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.003308,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.097562,0.136517,-0.011044,-0.045682,0.010024,-0.016733,-0.002417,-

0.001879,0.008678,0.013069,0.002621,-0.000878,0.003334,0.00055,-0.005351,1.9e-05,-

0.006501,0.00029,-0.001203,-0.002858,-0.002228,-0.002102,-7e-05,0.001153,0.001403
Sephardic_Jew,0.090945,0.143596,-0.021647,-0.057656,0.00437,-0.020471,-0.004841,-

0.002123,0.010594,0.01959,0.004628,0.000495,0.000684,-0.000729,-0.005185,-0.003553,-

0.006037,0.000709,-0.002413,-0.005765,-0.003806,-0.005972,0.001528,0.002892,0.001736
Italian_Jew,0.094928,0.145627,-0.018667,-0.056493,0.011294,-0.024542,-0.003995,-

0.002792,0.012885,0.019135,0.004514,0.00021,0.002156,-0.002876,-0.00661,-0.001233,-0.0012,-

0.001052,-0.001119,-0.003589,-0.003906,-0.001546,-0.000123,0.002362,0.002874

**talombo** · 01-15-2019, 11:08 AM

@Lemgrant , I tried the file you posted and got:

[1] "distance%=2.5283"

Sephardic_Jew,100

**Lemgrant** · 01-15-2019, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by talombo

@Lemgrant , I tried the file you posted and got:

[1] "distance%=2.5283"

Sephardic_Jew,100

Cumansky is 1/8 Jewish.

I do have one ancestor with Jewish surname. When Davidski was trying to find if I have any Jewish ancestry, he didn't included the Italian Jewish component, but only Ashkenazi and Sephardic. So he concluded that I don't have any.

karakartal · 01-15-2019, 02:57 PM

What do you think? Am i close Balkan Turk average?

[1] "distance%=3.4341"

TG_scaled

EEF,37.6
STEPPE,19.4
LEVANT,12.6
CHG,8.2
CENTRAL-ASIA,7
EHG,4.2
IRAN,3.2
WHG,2.6
DRAVIDIAN,1.4
SIBERIA,1.4
ASIA-EAST,0.8
AMERO-ASIATIC,0.6
AUSTRALIA,0.6
NORTH-AMERICA,0.4

with pen=0:

[1] "distance%=2.9347"

TG_scaled

EEF,36.6
STEPPE,30.2
CENTRAL-ASIA,12.8
LEVANT,12.4
ASIA-EAST,4.2
CHG,1.8
WHG,1.6
AUSTRALIA,0.4

**~~Cumansky~~** · 01-15-2019, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

I finally found how to detect your Jewishness with Davidski's approach. It works only when I add the Italian_Jewish component. Otherwise you get 0% Ashkenazi/Sephardic_Jew. But the thing is...I get the same amount too.

with pen=0:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Slovakian Polish Ukrainian Czech
2.350071 2.956157 3.073602 3.987966
Russian_Smolensk Hungarian German_East Austrian
4.073379 4.673038 5.086482 5.495256

[1] "distance%=1.99"

Cumansky_scaled

Slovakian,76
Latvian,22.4
Italian_Jew,1.6

*****************************************

and my result:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Polish Slovakian Ukrainian Russian_Smolensk
3.159840 3.201510 3.216856 3.698679
Czech Ingrian Latvian Hungarian
4.393714 4.893774 5.033764 5.225823

[1] "distance%=2.3094"

Lemgrant_scaled

Slovakian,54.4
Latvian,25
Ingrian,18
Italian_Jew,1.6
Greek,1

component list:

Code:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC

21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
Albanian,0.120327,0.141594,0.015839,-0.016335,0.025587,-0.006534,0.005103,0.003989,2.9e-

05,0.015204,0.00065,0.001178,-0.006456,0.00871,-0.021521,-

0.006421,0.004787,0.002534,0.008619,-0.006396,-0.004403,0.000742,0.002113,0.003012,-0.000633
English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.03923,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.0056

78,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-

0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
German,0.130263,0.137379,0.057981,0.038707,0.040003,0.015646,0.004067,0.005787,0.003526,0.0018

8,-0.004413,0.002373,-0.005371,-0.002542,0.008513,0.003291,-

0.003273,0.001663,0.003367,0.001719,0.00314,0.002005,7.2e-05,0.008305,0.000277
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0.038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-

0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-

0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
Greek,0.118496,0.143404,0.013338,-0.018615,0.020295,-0.005035,0.001756,4.9e-

05,0.000678,0.013668,0.000239,0.002011,-0.003091,0.007721,-0.016972,-

0.001654,0.008242,0.00058,0.004935,-0.003897,-0.007132,0.001321,0.002348,-0.000932,-0.001317
Czech,0.131385,0.132091,0.060474,0.046881,0.038425,0.018805,0.006211,0.008719,0.004646,-

0.009047,-0.001531,-0.004078,0.005777,0.011875,0.001396,0.000578,-0.000522,-4.5e-

05,0.004067,0.002725,-0.001007,-5.3e-05,0.006567,0.003942,0.001437
Polish,0.132006,0.129252,0.070097,0.05789,0.040685,0.021823,0.008707,0.010811,-0.001064,-

0.018675,-0.004433,-0.006444,0.013231,0.018638,-0.006881,-0.000752,0.001431,-7.6e-

05,0.002725,0.001182,-0.003082,-0.002999,0.005515,-0.00344,9e-05
Russian_Smolensk,0.134454,0.12326,0.072124,0.066336,0.039123,0.024996,0.011604,0.012692,0.0001

02,-0.025399,-0.003532,-0.008823,0.016892,0.029004,-0.009806,-0.007823,-0.003341,-

0.000839,4.7e-05,0.001782,0.000109,-0.004235,0.0059,-0.006402,0.000329
Ukrainian,0.1305,0.124071,0.067947,0.057101,0.03796,0.021123,0.009125,0.010926,-0.003121,-

0.021948,-0.000819,-0.007441,0.015344,0.023827,-0.011235,-0.003009,0.001757,-

0.000193,0.003596,2.2e-05,-0.006141,-0.004521,0.006291,-0.00493,0.000495
Slovakian,0.130441,0.128769,0.062677,0.051486,0.041238,0.020024,0.006768,0.0078,-0.001841,-

0.011554,-0.001916,-0.003747,0.009871,0.010432,-

0.009148,0.009281,0.012934,0.000253,0.00543,0.002351,-0.003718,-0.002077,0.004338,0.001928,-

0.001892
Latvian,0.135449,0.122473,0.088774,0.089471,0.043208,0.034025,0.012597,0.014076,-0.002168,-

0.036885,-0.003573,-0.013818,0.023221,0.031378,-0.010559,0.004057,0.002712,-

0.00038,0.001609,0.004302,-0.002795,-0.005713,0.009071,-0.009327,0.002634
Ingrian,0.129758,0.090044,0.08988,0.07569,0.033032,0.025844,0.009949,0.012999,-0.000614,-

0.026546,0.003194,-0.009891,0.014618,0.005688,-0.002941,0.002696,-0.001608,-0.000591,-

0.004358,0.004961,0.004035,0.000165,0.007477,0.002008,0.003034
Swedish,0.134001,0.128372,0.071533,0.055791,0.04142,0.021323,0.006847,0.008968,0.004695,-

0.006726,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.004831,-0.003691,0.015077,0.003984,-

0.007438,0.002004,0.003851,0.004639,0.006421,0.002136,0.000924,0.010697,-0.000299
Austrian,0.129089,0.135005,0.054394,0.032737,0.034776,0.012567,0.00723,0.006244,0.002827,0.002

755,-0.003878,0.000785,-

0.001294,0.002785,0.000503,0.003697,0.000222,0.00079,0.003179,0.000839,-0.000991,-

0.002655,0.001667,0.002963,-0.001028
Hungarian,0.127055,0.129543,0.055578,0.036741,0.036834,0.012463,0.006845,0.007918,0.001969,-

0.004396,-0.001685,-0.002295,0.003847,0.009401,-0.003758,-0.000762,-0.001377,-8.7e-

05,0.00275,-0.001297,-0.003431,0.001445,0.005415,0.002131,0.000157
Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002

825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-

0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.003308,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.097562,0.136517,-0.011044,-0.045682,0.010024,-0.016733,-0.002417,-

0.001879,0.008678,0.013069,0.002621,-0.000878,0.003334,0.00055,-0.005351,1.9e-05,-

0.006501,0.00029,-0.001203,-0.002858,-0.002228,-0.002102,-7e-05,0.001153,0.001403
Sephardic_Jew,0.090945,0.143596,-0.021647,-0.057656,0.00437,-0.020471,-0.004841,-

0.002123,0.010594,0.01959,0.004628,0.000495,0.000684,-0.000729,-0.005185,-0.003553,-

0.006037,0.000709,-0.002413,-0.005765,-0.003806,-0.005972,0.001528,0.002892,0.001736
Italian_Jew,0.094928,0.145627,-0.018667,-0.056493,0.011294,-0.024542,-0.003995,-

0.002792,0.012885,0.019135,0.004514,0.00021,0.002156,-0.002876,-0.00661,-0.001233,-0.0012,-

0.001052,-0.001119,-0.003589,-0.003906,-0.001546,-0.000123,0.002362,0.002874

I can run you my free Bronze Age Calculator with Global 25 coordinates, very similar with Ph2ter..

Cumansky @ 2.1421

42.6 Baltic
32.2 Scythians West
7.8 Indo Aryans
6.8 Farmers South
3.8 Levant and Eastern Sahara
3.4 Beakers NW
2.6 Levant and Western Sahara
0.8 Scythians East

**Lemgrant** · 01-15-2019, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Cumansky

I can run you my free Bronze Age Calculator with Global 25 coordinates, very similar with Ph2ter..

Cumansky @ 2.1421

42.6 Baltic
32.2 Scythians West
7.8 Indo Aryans
6.8 Farmers South
3.8 Levant and Eastern Sahara
3.4 Beakers NW
2.6 Levant and Western Sahara
0.8 Scythians East

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