Former FM: 'North Macedonia, welcome into our lives

[dosas]

They fought for an independent Macedonia, which we have partially achieved. The West could have easily taken that away from us if they wanted. Let’s look after what we’ve got and make it a success. If Pirinci and Egejci want to join us, well they should raise their voice and take to the streets. I don’t see that happening though.

What would Greeks and Bulgarians gain by joining you, according to your opinion.

[Crn Volk]

What would Greeks and Bulgarians gain by joining you, according to your opinion.

Nothing at the moment, that’s why I don’t see it happening. If however we have an economic miracle and surpass Bulgaria and Greece in economic prosperity, well then Macedonian national unity could become a little more attractive to Greek and Bulgarian Macedonians. That however is a big IF and is entirely up to those populations.

[dosas]

Nothing at the moment, that’s why I don’t see it happening. If however we have an economic miracle and surpass Bulgaria and Greece in economic prosperity, well then Macedonian national unity could become a little more attractive to Greek and Bulgarian Macedonians. That however is a big IF and is entirely up to those populations.

This scenario is fiction.

I can't speak for Bulgarians but Greece has the best Macedonia, so to speak, with access to the sea. Why would the Greeks give it up and put themselves under your control.

I am not doubting your personal goodwill, if you may, but historical wounds have been revived due to recent events with the Prespes Treaty. The matter should have been handled differently, even if the outcome remained roughly the same.

[Crn Volk]

This scenario is fiction.

I can't speak for Bulgarians but Greece has the best Macedonia, so to speak, with access to the sea. Why would the Greeks give it up and put themselves under your control.

I am not doubting your personal goodwill, if you may, but historical wounds have been revived due to recent events with the Prespes Treaty. The matter should have been handled differently, even if the outcome remained roughly the same.

Agree the process has been forced. But what’s done is done. Time to move on. We’ll concentrate in our Macedonia and you on yours.

[Dimos]

Time to move on. We’ll concentrate in our Macedonia and you on yours.

Hopefully. The Obedineta Makedonija, Solun, Kostur etc. Aleksandar Mekedonski, Filippovski, Bukephalovski, and so on narrative, had benn pouring poison on our souls for quite a long time. Hope to see no more of it in the future.

[catgeorge]

Fuck these deluded assholes they are fuckwads that befriend the Turks at the drop of the coin their classrooms still filled with hate and annexation dreams. One of the reason alot of us left Greece is because Greek leaders are traitorous scum selling the country down the river.

They need to respect many things this includes intellectual integrity and the will of the people.

They have no discipline and no conservative backbone

The Greeks are just pseudo intellectual faggots.

[Papastratosels26]

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[Voskos]

these deluded assholes

You're giving too much credit to what south slavs think and how they identify.As a matter of fact we're talking about one of the most Barbaric European races, at least that's how they were viewed until recently, especially by Greeks. Today they're Macedonians, tomorrow they'll be Greeks like in the case of Grecomans, in few centuries they'll be descendants of who knows what else.
For me the main problem is that they(slavic tribes) heavily raided medieval Greece hence why every modern Greek scores up to 30% slavic DNA, so basically we got ethnically, culturally and politically barbarized.

[Dianatomia]

Nothing at the moment, that’s why I don’t see it happening. If however we have an economic miracle and surpass Bulgaria and Greece in economic prosperity, well then Macedonian national unity could become a little more attractive to Greek and Bulgarian Macedonians. That however is a big IF and is entirely up to those populations.

Aside from this being an unlikely scenario, I can't see why Greek Macedonians would sacrifice their historical narrative and let go of their Hellenic cultural tradition to join a South Slavic people. Greek is the only spoken language in the Macedonian region which goes back to antiquity, Greek is also the only continuous literary tradition in Macedonia. Why discard this narrative and exclude yourself from the rest of the Greek heritage? Why unify with a territory which was not part of Classical Hellenic Macedonia, but Paeonia and Dardania to begin with? It will only throw water to your historical claim and identity. Such a unity would mean nothing for the Greeks Macedonians who number some 2,5 million inhabitants, while there are 1,3 million Macedonian Slavs.

So if anything, since the people of the FYR of Macedonia insist to be identified as Macedonian, it is more likely (although improbable still) that they, as Macedonians, will want to 'unite' with the Greece. In fact, the closest thing to any unification is that 'North Macedonia' will enter the EU, the borders will open and there will be free movement of goods and peoples between Greece and North Macedonia.

[Novi Pazar]

You're giving too much credit to what south slavs think and how they identify.As a matter of fact we're talking about one of the most Barbaric European races, at least that's how they were viewed until recently, especially by Greeks. Today they're Macedonians, tomorrow they'll be Greeks like in the case of Grecomans, in few centuries they'll be descendants of who knows what else.
For me the main problem is that they(slavic tribes) heavily raided medieval Greece hence why every modern Greek scores up to 30% slavic DNA, so basically we got ethnically, culturally and politically barbarized.

Mongrel, the so called Slavic raid is a myth. You will, for arguments sake, find Slavic (Serbian) names in the Sinai. What do you classify as Slavic DNA? Is it I or R. Realistically, I haplogroup is Serbian/Slavic, whilst R (R1a/R1b) originated from the Eurasian steppes.