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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    I never read so a lot of shit, they say there are left wing indoctrination
    Withdraw farmers on lands occupied legally, without a warrant, because they decided to make a reservation arbitrarily and Indigenous people (influenced by ONGs) send a letter to the government that want a Socialist Yanomami Nation, not is left for you?



    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    No one cares about 60% of brazilian territory are farms, being 40% of brazilian territory owned by <1 of brazilian population.
    <1% which produces 6x of what the population consumes. Brazil is not Venezuela who distributed land to those who are unable to plant does not have the resources for this.

    To northern region the Forest Code says that in private areas 80% is considered a Legal Reserve which must remain untouched, 20% is for agribusiness. Considering national reserves >80% of the Amazon forest will remain untouched. Environmental laws in mining-rich regions will be reviewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Withdraw farmers on lands occupied legally, without a warrant, because they decided to make a reservation arbitrarily and Indigenous people (influenced by ONGs) send a letter to the government that want a Socialist Yanomami Nation, not is left for you?
    I will repeat again, amerinds don't own their reserves, these lands are of state, they are just usufructuary of those lands. Brazil still have a constitution (that maybe we don't agree with content, but we are subject to it), in that says the property is relative, any moment the state can require your property. We have two option, change the constitution or flee from Brazil.


    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    <1% which produces 6x of what the population consumes. Brazil is not Venezuela who distributed land to those who are unable to plant does not have the resources for this.
    Who produces 75% of food consumed by brazilian population is familiar agriculture, little farms and ranches, people with very little support from state. Big farmers with a lot of subsidies produce for exportation.

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    To northern region the Forest Code says that in private areas 80% is considered a Legal Reserve which must remain untouched, 20% is for agribusiness. Considering national reserves >80% of the Amazon forest will remain untouched. Environmental laws in mining-rich regions will be reviewed.
    Didn't you watch the video? Only 20% of brazilian territory is reserve. Period.

    If you are talking about legal reserves into private areas, this subject has nothing to do with amerinds or with public reserves.

    No one understand this greed by amazonic lands if everybody knows amazonic soil is useless to agriculture, the advantage of forest is produce rain to irrigate the plantations in Central Brazil. Watch the video, is giant the number of unproductive lands into private properties, what Brazil don't need advance against Amazonia to produce if there are a lot of unproductive lands out of Amazonia, this people just want do collection of land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    I will repeat again, amerinds don't own their reserves, these lands are of state, they are just usufructuary of those lands. Brazil still have a constitution (that maybe we don't agree with content, but we are subject to it), in that says the property is relative, any moment the state can require your property. We have two option, change the constitution or flee from Brazil.

    They are regions in deadlock (due to ONGs an UN). For the country it is not possible to extract ore and for the Indians it is not possible either. The current government wants to transform into private property (the owners will be the Indians).


    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    Didn't you watch the video? Only 20% of brazilian territory is reserve. Period.

    If you are talking about legal reserves into private areas, this subject has nothing to do with amerinds or with public reserves.

    No one understand this greed by amazonic lands if everybody knows amazonic soil is useless to agriculture, the advantage of forest is produce rain to irrigate the plantations in Central Brazil. Watch the video, is giant the number of unproductive lands into private properties, what Brazil don't need advance against Amazonia to produce if there are a lot of unproductive lands out of Amazonia, this people just want do collection of land.
    It is better that they are private lands, so you have someone to fine and a case of deforestation. Yes no one is interested in wood that has little value (without environmental report) and many lands are not viable to agriculture. I will not pay attention to a farmer(?) video (noticed that he showed a sack of seed to "prove" that he is a farmer?), he ignores the Forest Code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    They are regions in deadlock (due to ONGs an UN). For the country it is not possible to extract ore and for the Indians it is not possible either. The current government wants to transform into private property (the owners will be the Indians).
    Guy, even USA have a giant amount of minerals under their soil, but they prefer not explore it, they prefer buy it from foreigners. They are doing reserve. Why? The law of offer and demand, if you produce more ore without a demand in market, just the price of ore will fall, you will need produce more to receive the same. It is valid to any product.


    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    It is better that they are private lands, so you have someone to fine and a case of deforestation. Yes no one is interested in wood that has little value (without environmental report) and many lands are not viable to agriculture. I will not pay attention to a farmer(?) video (noticed that he showed a sack of seed to "prove" that he is a farmer?), he ignores the Forest Code.
    That guy isn't a farmer he is a reseller of agricultural products, forget that video then, but the problem isn't him, but you and who talk about amerinds reserves, you want turn these lands private of amerinds, then after you will claim the constitution to expropriate those lands from them because they are underutilizing them. Private property is disadvantageous in Brazil because the property is relative according brazilian constitution, I want turn amerind reserve private of them, only when the property is absolute, you are free to do what you want with what is yours, including nothing, but other problem of privatize amerinds lands is that they will sell them and go to live in favelas in big cities, increasing the number poor, saturate the already fragile infrastructure of that places and even elevate criminality.

    About reserves into private lands, this subject has nothing do do with amerinds or public reserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    What's your opinion on this?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...ntists-n940326

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...n-rain-forest/

    Is it exaggerated by the media? Think he'll go through with it? This idea of his really doesn't resonate with me well and I hope it's just talk.
    If these scientists are saying that the Amazon rainforest are the "lungs of the Earth" then they are not scientists. Most of the free oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the oceans, but that's another story. As for the political aspect of Bolsonaro's decisions, he is not wrong. These reservations represent almost 1/5 of Brazil's entire territory and less than 1% of the population lives there. These are "wild west" zones, where law means nothing and illegal logging and international drug traffic are commonplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    If these scientists are saying that the Amazon rainforest are the "lungs of the Earth" then they are not scientists. Most of the free oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the oceans, but that's another story. As for the political aspect of Bolsonaro's decisions, he is not wrong. These reservations represent almost 1/5 of Brazil's entire territory and less than 1% of the population lives there. These are "wild west" zones, where law means nothing and illegal logging and international drug traffic are commonplace.
    This region produces water for the rest of Brazil, without it we become a continuum of Sahara. We need not only food, we need water too, even because our electric system is based in hydroelectrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    This region produces water for the rest of Brazil, without it we become a continuum of Sahara. We need not only food, we need water too, even because our electric system is based in hydroelectrics.
    What? What does it have to do with anything I’ve said? Plus, this region does not “produce” any water. Most of the rivers in North and Mid-West states are supplied with water from the Andes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    What? What does it have to do with anything I’ve said? Plus, this region does not “produce” any water. Most of the rivers in North and Mid-West states are supplied with water from the Andes.
    Yes, the water comes from nothing and appears over the rocks of Andes, it has none relation with water vapour from trees respiration. If northern Brazil becomes a high pressure air area, none humidity from Atlantic will reach Andes, like none humidity from Pacific transposes the mountains.

    The trees retain carbon, but if you are a global warming negationist, it is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    Yes, the water comes from nothing and appears over the rocks of Andes, it has none relation with water vapour from trees respiration. If northern Brazil becomes a high pressure air area, none humidity from Atlantic will reach Andes, like none humidity from Pacific transposes the mountains.

    The trees retain carbon, but if you are a global warming negationist, it is irrelevant.
    Again, what does it have to do with anything I’ve said? You seem to be under the impression that I don’t care for the rainforest and if so you are wrong. Anyway, the humidity responsible for the glaciers in the Andes comes from the Pacific Ocean, not from the Atlantic Ocean.

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