Why is the UK closer to Denmark than Ireland Genetically? Is it Bell beakers or Saxons?

[Dna8]

There was suggestion (from Reich also?) that in SE-England some post-Roman settlers survived Anglo-Saxon invasion, especially in cities. They should be mostly local Briton genetically but some continental input can't be neglected among them. What do you think?

I agree.. makes sense for some Continental gene flow..

No they are quite close genetically. England always had more interaction and geneflow from the European continent and just looking at a map will explain why. Ireland has always been more isolated due to geography and was always reached either through Britain i.e this is how the Normans came to Ireland and via sea i.e. Vikings etc. Romans for example never came to Ireland.

First people that came to Ireland also came via Britain first.

Presumably, the strongest and most proliferated genetic inputs had ages and ages to homogenize the British Isles to some extent, from the Mesolithic period to time of the first Roman landings?

Yes the post I sourced. Most Fst Charts also show England being closer to netherlands than Ireland. They look similar, but all NW euros look pretty similar barring slight differences in frequencies of hair/eye colour.

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I'm not sure how straightforwardly such data corresponds to phenotype.. IMO, English, Scottish, Irish, Northern Irish, Welsh all resemble each other more than they do any Continental types..

Britain has higher input from the continent than Ireland.

Agreed.. would you say a majority of foreign genetics, having made landing, spread outwards across today's countries?

[Dna8]

You do not take into account that these graphs are made with a limited number of people from some area of England or Ireland?
England had AngloSaxons, Romans, Danes, besides Bretton Kelts.
Later, they got the Normans.
Is normal to have the English people quite diverse as genetics.

Agreed.. and, I'd add, it would be normal for admixture to spread out from England..

[Bellbeaking]

It is an interesting Fst Chart, it would be good if we could get more of them!

[♥ Lily ♥]

You do not take into account that these graphs are made with a limited number of people from some area of England or Ireland?
England had AngloSaxons, Romans, Danes, besides Bretton Kelts.
Later, they got the Normans.
Is normal to have the English people quite diverse as genetics.

The Romans retreated from Great Britain after the Roman Empire collapsed, before Angles, Jutes, and Saxons invaded and took over our island. The Angles, Jutes, and Saxons came from Denmark and Northern Germany, prior to the Norse and Danish Viking settlers and the Danelaw over England, and prior to the Norman Conquest.

The Normans (which means 'North Man') were descended from Vikings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans

Indigneous Celts in the British Isles didn't arrive here from Brittany in north-west France... the Bretons descend from British Celts who migrated there from Cornwall and Devon.

Bretons didn't migrate to Great Britain;- it's the other way around.

Bretons trace much of their heritage to groups of Brittonic speakers who emigrated from southwestern Great Britain to Brittany in France, particularly from Cornwall and Devon, mostly during the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretons