Surnames Argentina. Frequencies.

[perikolez]

Well... in my opinion there is a technical tie/draw between spanish and italian ancestry (as Argentano explained).
But the big difference is that among italian surnames exist more diversity for that reason there is a more repetition among spanish ones.
For that reason some of them are more common.

I think that Argentano is right. It is imposible a tie between spanish and italian ancestry. Spanish colonial+spaniard inmigrant is probably around 50% of total argentinean ancestry. Italian ancestry is around 20% of total ancestry. You can probably find more amerindian ancestry than italian ancestry in Argentina.

[Erronkari]

I think that Argentano is right. It is imposible a tie between spanish and italian ancestry. Spanish colonial+spaniard inmigrant is probably around 50% of total argentinean ancestry. Italian ancestry is around 20% of total ancestry. You can probably find more amerindian ancestry than italian ancestry in Argentina.

Well... indeed according genetic tests amerindian % is around 20 to 24%, so in that case you are totally right. Impossible to deny it.
And probably yes... spanish ancestry is bigger than italian in %.
Por that reason I can't understand those people who think that the spanish influence % genetically talking in Argentina is less than in Bolivia and Guatemala for example.
Spanish % here is totally underestimated unhappily.

[Marco94]

I found this cool map and I wanted to share it somewhere. Largest groups of immigrants in Argentina by province:

[Argentano]

I found this cool map and I wanted to share it somewhere. Largest groups of immigrants in Argentina by province:

Thats 1914 if i am not wrong. I think the french in the buenos aires 3rd map is french basque

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I found this cool map and I wanted to share it somewhere. Largest groups of immigrants in Argentina by province:

Russia and Turkey! Thats very exotic!

[Argentano]

The biggest difference between recent italian/spanish immigants was in 1860/1890. In that time we had around twice italians as spaniards.

Then since 1900 it was even to the point there were more young spaniards than young italians in buenos aires in 1914

For example, in the map Marco94 is posting there are more italians than spaniards in buenos aires and city of buenos aires (1914) , but many of those italians were old people. Spaniards were younger, in the age of having kids. Plus the french basque who are also spanish here.

This change in the euro waves can be seen in the age groups of 1914 census.

[Argentano]

If i have time i will try to add distinguish the french basque and german in the others category

[Erronkari]

It's very interesting the issue of the origin of immigrants in any province.
But I like to clarify something.
The "turkish" ones were really syrians and lebanese but they count as turkish because they had turkish passport because they were under ottoman empire.
And also in provinces which show the russian flag, the bulk of them were mostly volgian germans.

[Marco94]

The biggest difference between recent italian/spanish immigants was in 1860/1890. In that time we had around twice italians as spaniards.

Then since 1900 it was even to the point there were more young spaniards than young italians in buenos aires in 1914

For example, in the map Marco94 is posting there are more italians than spaniards in buenos aires and city of buenos aires (1914) , but many of those italians were old people. Spaniards were younger, in the age of having kids. Plus the french basque who are also spanish here.

This change in the euro waves can be seen in the age groups of 1914 census.

You’re right!

It should be noticed as well that “Turkish” is actually Ottoman (most of them Syirian-Lebanese).

[Erronkari]

You’re right!

It should be noticed as well that “Turkish” is actually Ottoman (most of them Syirian-Lebanese).

It's ok friend, no problem.
Indeed I have a doubt if the russian element in La Pampa is just Volgian-German or they are adding the Menonites...
But I imagine that they don't, first because menonites are a very new immigration, and also most of them if I am not wrong were born in Mexico, and some other less in Paraguay and Bolivia, not in Russia, but I could be wrong of course... that was what I've always thought.