Classify Iranian Soldiers: Which Phenotype is most common

[Blondie]

I feel Irano Nordid are just depigmented western Iranian people. The facial bone construct is still very Iranian. To me this is not even a sub category of Iranic people.

Nice pics, they are real iranics. Proto-iranics were light haired eyed peoples with nordid face type.

[Oghuz]

Nice pics, they are real iranics. Proto-iranics were light haired eyed peoples with nordid face type.

If you darken the hair color of these people you will get a textbook Iranid face shape. That is what I meant.

[Oghuz]

Nice pics, they are real iranics. Proto-iranics were light haired eyed peoples with nordid face type.

If you darken the hair color of these people you will get a textbook Iranid face shape. That is what I meant.

[Blondie]

If you darken the hair color of these people you will get a textbook Iranid face shape. That is what I meant.

Iranid face type have nothing to do with proto-iranics.

[Oghuz]

Iranid face type have nothing to do with proto-iranics.

Any proof of this ?

[Blondie]

Any proof of this ?

Proto-Iranic peoples were blonde light eyed europeans, their racial type was proto-nordid:
http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

"Keyser et al. (2009) confirmed a high frequencies of blonde hair and green eyes in early Kurgans."

Early Kurgans were proto-iranic graves, you can find the proto-nordid subrace type only in ex iranic areas.

Ancient iranic face reconstrutions:





Modern iranians have nothing to do with the original ancient iranic peoples.

[Oghuz]

Proto-Iranic peoples were blonde light eyed europeans, their racial type was proto-nordid:
http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

"Keyser et al. (2009) confirmed a high frequencies of blonde hair and green eyes in early Kurgans."

Early Kurgans were proto-iranic graves, you can find the proto-nordid subrace type only in ex iranic areas.

Ancient iranic face reconstrutions:





Modern iranians have nothing to do with the original ancient iranic peoples.

I do not know what Kurgan identity has to do with Iranic identity in Iranic Plateau. For sake of discussion, the face shapes that you posted are not very different from generic Iranid face shape. Irano Nordoid type is just depigmented in Hairs.





Look at the genetic continuity of Iranic people from Iron and bronze age. I know this age old myth on internet that some miracle happened and Iranians started getting darker hairs. The genetic identity is preserved.



Here is a portrait of a iron age Iranic soldier from 5th cenrtury BC. He is as Iranid as I am.

[Khamzat]

Most are pretty dark and can pass as baloch.

[lameduck]

Iraq surprised me.

When you say pashtuns/afghans do you mean afghanistan or pakistani pashtuns ?

i mean Pashtuns in general from both countries.

[Blondie]

I do not know what Kurgan identity has to do with Iranic identity in Iranic Plateau. For sake of discussion, the face shapes that you posted are not very different from generic Iranid face shape. Irano Nordoid type is just depigmented in Hairs.





Look at the genetic continuity of Iranic people from Iron and bronze age. I know this age old myth on internet that some miracle happened and Iranians started getting darker hairs. The genetic identity is preserved.



Here is a portrait of a iron age Iranic soldier from 5th cenrtury BC. He is as Iranid as I am.

Again: the proto-iranic peoples are white nordid looking europeans who origianted from East Europe and West Asia:



Early Kurgans were proto-iranic graves:

"The earliest kurgans date to the 4th millennium BC in the Caucasus,[3] and researchers associate these with the Indo-Europeans.[4] Kurgans were built in the Eneolithic, Bronze, Iron, Antiquity and Middle Ages, with ancient traditions still active in Southern Siberia and Central Asia. Archeologists divide kurgan cultures into different sub-cultures, such as Timber Grave, Pit Grave, Scythian, Sarmatian, Hunnish and Kuman-Kipchak. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan

Modern iranians are descedants of dark skinned non indo-european middle easternes and the conqueror proto-iranic (nordid white europeans) elite where you language came from. That's why modern iranians have nothin to do with their linguistically proto iranic ancestors.

Originally the Iranid subrace is not iranic but arabic/middle eastern, afro-asian:

"Eickstedt (1952, 1961), Bernhard (1993) and Knussmann (1996) define Iranid as an Orientalid subrace, Biasutti (1967) even its the main variety "Iraniana", Lundman (1967) describes Iranid as an East Mediterranid influenced by Arabid. "
http://humanphenotypes.net/Iranid.html

Real iranics are nordid looking.