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Thread: Uyghurs: What is their real Mongoloid / Caucasian admixture on average ?

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    Default Uyghurs: What is their real Mongoloid / Caucasian admixture on average ?

    My question is are they more Mongoloid or more Caucasian ???"

    What is their real AVERAGE DNA ??????????????????????????

    On here it seems they are only 43% Mongoloid



    Only here like maybe 32-42% Mongoloid


    But on here they are like 40-72% Mongoloid ( that's a huge difference )




    Like even here on they seem to be 45-70% Mongoloid

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    Uyghur (n=12)

    East_Asian 30.23%
    Siberian 14.82%
    Southeast_Asian 4.65%

    Total 49.7%

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...r5Y/edit#gid=0

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    Around half and half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Uyghur (n=12)

    East_Asian 30.23%
    Siberian 14.82%
    Southeast_Asian 4.65%

    Total 49.7%

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...r5Y/edit#gid=0
    Is that really the average or one of the average ?

    This is what DNA from Wikipedia says

    " The Uyghurs are a Eurasian population with Eastern and Western Eurasian anthropometric and genetic traits. Uyghurs are thus one of the many populations of Central Eurasia that can be considered to be genetically related to Caucasoid and East Asian populations. However, various scientific studies differ on the size of each component.[140]

    One study, using samples from Hetian (Hotan) only, found that Uyghurs have 60 per cent European ancestry and 40 per cent East Asian ancestry.[141]

    A further study showed slightly greater European component (52 per cent European) in the Uyghur population in southern Xinjiang, but slightly greater East Asian component (47 per cent European) in the northern Uyghur population.

    [142] Another study used a larger sample of individuals from a wider area, and found only about 30 per cent European component to the admixture.[143]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Around half and half.
    Source ???

    We still have evidence surviving descendants of almost pure Tocharian Uyghurs

    1 Uyghur sample being 90% Caucasoid/west Eurasian
    1 Uyghur sample being 85% Caucasoid/west Eurasian
    1 Uyghur sample being 77% Caucasoid/west Eurasian
    3 Uyghur sample being 70-75% Caucasoid/west Eurasian
    7 Uyghur samples being 60-69% Caucasoid west Eurasian

    Is already proof ancient Tocharian/Iranians of Tarm Basin were most of them were 85-90% Caucasoid/west Eurasian on average, with some being 77% in the past.

    So the Caucasoid/and predominately Caucasoid Tocharians intermixing with invaders Mongoloid/and predominately Mongoloid Uyghurs
    Which formed the modern day Northern Uyghurs being anything 30%, 35,% 48% Caucasoid/west Eurasian while Southern Uyghurs are 52, 60%, 68% Caucasoid West Eurasian on average.

    ( ONLY PROBLEM IS I DON'T KNOW THE DAMN AVERAGE DNA FOR THEM )

    CEU = Central European
    UIG = Uighur





    According to the paper by Li et al.:

    ... the western East Asians are more closely related to Uyghurs than the eastern East Asians. ... STRUCTURE cannot distinguish recent admixture from a cline of other origin, and these analyses cannot prove admixture in the Uyghurs; however, historical records indicate that the present Uyghurs were formed by admixture between Tocharians from the west and Orkhon Uyghurs (Wugusi-Huihu, according to present Chinese pronunciation) from the east in the 8th century AD. The Uyghur Empire was originally located in Mongolia and conquered the Tocharian tribes in Xinjiang. Tocharians such as Kroran have been shown by archaeological findings to appear phenotypically similar to northern and central Europeans, whereas the Orkhon Uyghur people were clearly Mongolians. The two groups of people subsequently mixed in Xinjiang to become one population, the present Uyghurs. We do not know the genetic constitution of the Tocharians, but if they were similar to western Siberians, such as the Khanty, admixture would already be biased toward similarity with East Asian populations.

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    Seems they vary a lot.

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    Uyghurs were white indo-eropeans (tocharians) later they were assimilated by turks. The modern uyghur population is white-turk mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Uyghur (n=12)

    East_Asian 30.23%
    Siberian 14.82%
    Southeast_Asian 4.65%

    Total 49.7%

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...r5Y/edit#gid=0
    Also do you have an average DNA test for Turkmen because I'm seriously doubting they have only 20.9% Mongoloid

    A lot of these Turkmen look exactly like the Kazakhs, Kyrgyz who are generally 60-80% Mongoloid

    Look at them....





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    Turkmens in Turkmenistan are more Caucasoid than Mongoloid. My mom lived in the Turkmen SSR and she said they were not really 'gooks' (slant-eyed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    Uyghurs were white indo-eropeans (tocharians) later they were assimilated by turks. The modern uyghur population is white-turk mixed.
    I think what you mean is the Tocharians and other Indo-Iranian groups of the Tarim basin. The Uyghurs were never white.

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