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    A a very nice thing about Brits and Irish is that they are very musical people.
    They have highest musical skill in folk, pop,rock etc from all the Europeans.
    Not in classical music, where best skill is at Austrians and Germans,as it seems.
    Lily was telling that the Londoners were singing to make themselves courage when the Nazis bombed London in WW2.
    These are Singing Kelts - the Irish and the Brits.
    Such voices as the Brits and the Irish got, you will not see anywhere else in Europe.
    So they are a quite unique group of Europeans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I have always noticed similarities between the Dutch and the English living on the East Coast.
    It's where germanic dna peaks in Britain, in the south-east; Norb plots with Belgium if I remember correctly and he's from that region. South-west england is much more "native".
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    Londoners are a weird bunch. Their humour reminds me a lot of what you would find in cities like The Hague and Rotterdam (that South-Western corner of Holland).

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    It's where germanic dna peaks in Britain, in the south-east; Norb plots with Belgium if I remember correctly and he's from that region. South-west england is much more "native".
    That would explain a lot. There is also more Danish influence on the East Coast as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Why would Britain plot with France?

    Its common on Anthro forums to say that brits are not northern europeans and are closer to france and spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    Its common on Anthro forums to say that brits are not northern europeans and are closer to france and spain.
    Then those forums are, frankly, a bit of a joke. The French never left much of a biological influence there. The English are a Celto-Germanic people and the same applies to the Scots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Then those forums are, frankly, a bit of a joke. The French never left much of a biological influence there. The English are a Celto-Germanic people and the same applies to the Scots.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

    Yup, the dutch bell beakers may have spoken some sort of proto indo european, similar to the language ancestral to both celtic and germanic

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    Closer to Germany/Netherlands/Scandinavia. End of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

    Yup, the dutch bell beakers may have spoken some sort of proto indo european, similar to the language ancestral to both celtic and germanic
    I can't read the article because it is behind a pay wall.


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    Closer to Germanic than to Iberians. To France it depends on the region but if we take the average from all regions then it is still closer to Germanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

    Yup, the dutch bell beakers may have spoken some sort of proto indo european, similar to the language ancestral to both celtic and germanic
    Rather Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic, or more technically 'Northwestern Indo-European'. PIE was spoken ~2000 years earlier in the Don-Caspian steppe or somewhere south of Caucasus.

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