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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco94 View Post
    There are 13,000 Argentines in Italy according to official figures. But the number is much higher, actually, because most Argentines that migrate to Italy do it with Italian citizenship, so they are undercounted.

    In Spain, for example, there are 250,000 people born in Argentina, but just 87,000 Argentine citizens. That is, more than 60% migrated to Spain with a European citizenship. So, calculating the Argentine diaspora becomes more difficult. All of my friends that moved to Europe did it with an Italian, Spanish or German citizenship, so the number of Argentines in Europe could be much higher.

    Do those who go to Israel and the United States also do so with the passports of those countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Do those who go to Israel and the United States also do so with the passports of those countries?
    Those who migrate to America need some kind of visa to live there legally, so the citizenship is almost irrelevant. A couple of friends of mine went to the US under a Work and Travel program last summer (winter in the US), and they did it with their Argentine passport, and not the Italian one. However, when travelling as tourist, the European passport is better due to the fact that you don’t need a Visa to enter as tourist.

    In the case of Israel it’s different from other countries. Most (almost all) of the Argentines that migrate to Israel are Jewish. They migrate with their Argentine passport, and when in Israel they apply for Israeli citizenship under the ”law of return”, or take up residence if they don’t want to become citizens. A friend of my brother did it that way, and after checking it on Wikipedia I’ve confirmed that that’s how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco94 View Post
    There are 13,000 Argentines in Italy according to official figures. But the number is much higher, actually, because most Argentines that migrate to Italy do it with Italian citizenship, so they are undercounted.

    In Spain, for example, there are 250,000 people born in Argentina, but just 87,000 Argentine citizens. That is, more than 60% migrated to Spain with a European citizenship. So, calculating the Argentine diaspora becomes more difficult. All of my friends that moved to Europe did it with an Italian, Spanish or German citizenship, so the number of Argentines in Europe could be much higher.

    If you and me go to Spain to live de apply as italian citizens (passport).
    Have you thought that before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    If you and me go to Spain to live de apply as italian citizens (passport).
    Have you thought that before?
    Yep, as both of us would use our Italian passport in order to take up residence. We wouldn’t be counted as Argentines on the official figures.

    I’ve thought about it since I want to go live there for at least a few months in the coming years. I’m really thankful for having Italian ancestors and the Jure Sanguinis principle lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco94 View Post
    Yep, as both of us would use our Italian passport in order to take up residence. We wouldn’t be counted as Argentines on the official figures.

    I’ve thought about it since I want to go live there for at least a few months in the coming years. I’m really thankful for having Italian ancestors and the Jure Sanguinis principle lol
    Obtaining legal residence in Spain is very easy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Obtaining legal residence in Spain is very easy?
    If you have another european citizenship you won't have many problems to legalize because you still be a communitarian citizen.
    Even though you must present all papers but without big locks.
    Although if you don't have another Euro citizenship I don't really know how is.

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    The most Latin Americans outside of Latin America, aside from the US and Spain? I'm not sure how to process this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    For brazilians the answer would be Paraguay or Japan before Portugal according to this:

    Ok I think I understand now. I'd be interested in knowing the total for all Latin American countries. I guess I understand the OP question now. I apologize.
    https://i.imgur.com/Wpjac1i.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Obtaining legal residence in Spain is very easy?
    A friend of mine moved to Spain last year with his German citizenship, and he told me that there’s a lot of bureaucracy, but nothing compared to Argentina. You just have to “empadronarte” and apply for your NIE (it’s like a DNI for foreigners), as well as requesting your social security number. It took him a month.

    If you don’t have a European citizenship, well the process is much different. Idk how it is, but youl’ll need some kind of visa first.

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    Canada or Italy, depending on each Latin American country.

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