Greek Islands/Cretan 23andme results after the update and the "Italian" vs "Greek/Balkan"

[kleenex]

Some of these score as much Italian, as some of the Sicilians/Calabrians I have. The amount of West Asian is roughly equal to their range.

I really wonder if these people have specific regions of Italy showing up since they score so much Italian.

Crete:


Crete:


Naxos, Cyclades:


Kalymnos, Dodecanese:


Chios, North Aegean:


Chios/Samos, North Aegean:

Ok to put things in perspective I (Mainland Greeks) got 89 percent Balkan and 8 percent Italian so obviously the Italian is picking up something Eastern shifted.

[Sikeliot]

Ok to put things in perspective I (Mainland Greeks) got 89 percent Balkan and 8 percent Italian so obviously the Italian is picking up something Eastern shifted.

The Italian component seems to be something indigenous to the Aegean islands that is not of mainland Greek origin.

[Tauromachos]

The Italian component seems to be something indigenous to the Aegean islands that is not of mainland Greek origin.

How can it be Italian anyway

Is it shared by all Italians from North till South?

[Voskos]

The Italian is not real. Why would someone from Samos or Chios, or even Central Greece score Italian? On the other hand many of my matches from Crete carry Italian Y-DNA, especially R1b-U152.

[Sikeliot]

The Italian is not real. Why would someone from Samos or Chios, or even Central Greece score Italian? On the other hand many of my matches from Crete carry Italian Y-DNA, especially R1b-U152.

The "Italian" in the Aegean islands is just ancient DNA that is shared with Italy. Mainland Greeks score lower Italian which means that there is a difference.

[catgeorge]

The "Italian" in the Aegean islands is just ancient DNA that is shared with Italy. Mainland Greeks score lower Italian which means that there is a difference.

Islanders have more "Anatolian" input
Mainlanders have more "Paleobalkan" input.

Vast majority of R1b and R1a in Greece is from the Pontic Steppes.

[Sikeliot]

Islanders have more "Anatolian" input
Mainlanders have more "Paleobalkan" input.

The "Italian" component is more linked to the former than the latter.

[catgeorge]

The "Italian" component is more linked to the former than the latter.

The Italian component you are referring to is not Sicilian.

The Greek component in Italians is a transition from Aceramic to Thessalian Neolithic as supported by serious scientists not pseudo scientific nonsense you like spewing on every anthropological website

This does not discount the fact Islanders have higher degrees of "Anatolian" and the Italian component merely means a shared component and could be a factor of human movements to the Islands during the middle ages. There is absolute no evidence of its age other than analysing the Y DNA subclades. Low IQ ape.

[Sikeliot]

The Italian component you are referring to is not Sicilian.

The Greek component in Italians is a transition from Aceramic to Thessalian Neolithic as supported by serious scientists not pseudo scientific nonsense you like spewing on every anthropological website

This does not discount the fact Islanders have higher degrees of "Anatolian" and the Italian component merely means a shared component and could be a factor of human movements to the Islands during the middle ages. There is absolute no evidence of its age other than analysing the Y DNA subclades. Low IQ ape.

The way you speak to and about me is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it any more. I have been passively ignoring it for too long, but you are going to change the way you speak to me.

[catgeorge]

The way you speak to and about me is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it any more. I have been passively ignoring it for too long, but you are going to change the way you speak to me.

When you stop spreading nonsense about Greeks I will, till then you better smarten the fuck up.