Can Islam be Reformed? Poll!

[Petros Agapetos]

I think Islam cannot be reformed. It is too strict. The Qur'an is not as long as the Bible (it is shorter than the New Testament). That is why the Qur'an's exhortations to violence stand out. The Qur'an is a more stream-line book. Inciting hatred towards non-believers is central to the faith. The Qur'an talks about the non-believers more than the believers. No matter which page you open your Qur'an, you will find denunciations of the non-believers. Islam teaches Muslims to hate those "who hate Allah"; of course in practice this ends up causing Muslims to hate non-Muslims.

Abrogation (naskh)
The Meccan verses are more tolerant. In Islamic theology, the Medinan *violent* passages take precedence over the Meccan *peaceful* passages. This is called "Naskh", Abrogation. One would have to switch these two, so that the Meccan verses take precedence. Some reformers who have tried this have been executed (example Muhammad Taha in Sudan).

[Ayetooey]

The real question is can Petros Agapetos be reformed? Human living reincarnation of Enver Hoxha.

[Ayetooey]

A possible way to reform Islam is to ignore the Hadith collections and only adhere to the Qur'an. Quranist (Qur'an only) Muslims are a minority. Orthodox Sunni and Shia Islam also follow the hadiths. Even if the Muslims only follow the Qur'an, therein they can find many prescriptions to fight non-believers, to subjugate Jews and Christians, to fight until religion is all for Allah, other such passages are in the Qur'an. One wouldn't get a peaceful religion out of it by a long shot.

Quranist islam is a lot more peaceful (and makes more sense), vast majority of the weird stuff comes from the Hadith.

[Luca]

no amount of reforming will give mad muslim men their foreskin back
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[Petros Agapetos]

An ex-Muslim, the Apostate Prophet, discusses whether Islam can be reformed.

[Petros Agapetos]

Audience: "I have a question about what is so seductive about Islam."
Robert Spencer: "You cannot take Muhammad and Sharia out of Islam."

The book (The Qur'an) is so full of hate, so full of exhortations to violence, that the more devout Muslims become, the worse people they become.
Because of all the violence and hatred in the Qur'an, even if some Muslims would not kill, they would also not mind if others kill, because they know it is Qur'anically mandated.

Jihad means struggle. There are as many struggles in Arabic as there are in English. However, in Islamic theology, jihad refers to warfare against non-believers.

The lesser jihad mandates warfare against non-believers.

1. Muslims invite non-Muslims to join Islam
2. If not, then they demand Jews and Chrstians enter the Islamic social order as dhimmis (in order to subjugate them).
3. If not, then seek Allah's help and fight them.

The non-Muslims must suffer by the hands of the Muslims in this world and accept the insitutionalized harassment that dhimmitude brings them.

[Petros Agapetos]

Please vote on the poll!
I am curious what you think.

[Loki]

No, it's a false religion, it cannot be reformed. Muslims must turn to the true God and Saviour, Jesus Christ. That is the only way for them.

[Teutone]

That makes a lot of sense...

no amount of reforming will give mad muslim men their foreskin back
rip

1 like to this post = one prayer to all the men who lost their dignity this way

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[Blondie]

No, islam is a cancer.