Can New World nations be considered "ethnic groups" in the same way European and Asian nations are?

[Tooting Carmen]

^ This. So the correct answer for the purpose of the thread would be, some groups are closer to ethnostate status than others.

Yeah but even Dominicans can range from 90-100% White to 90-100% Black, with sometimes traces of Amerindian too, can't they?

[Andullero]

Yeah but even Dominicans can range from 90-100% White to 90-100% Black, with sometimes traces of Amerindian too, can't they?

Yep, the process is still underway. Cape Verdeans, albeit not a New World nation, are farther on the ethnostate path than us.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yep, the process is still underway. Cape Verdeans, albeit not a New World nation, are farther on the ethnostate path than us.

I'd be interested in your opinion here too please: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...n-quot-Discuss

[El_Jibaro]

Not really. If we look at the classic ethnic groups of the old world, within the same ethnicity people have both genetic and cultural closeness with each other and so...like you can say the average person of so and so country in LATAM for example has these certain percentages but there are plenty of people who are either more Euro admixed, SSA, Amerindian, etc who are also of that country.

The average, say Cuban or whatever is like 70% euro or something...is the 80%+ SSA person from Santiago less "ethnically Cuban" than a more Euro admixed person? No, of course not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Not really. If we look at the classic ethnic groups of the old world, within the same ethnicity people have both genetic and cultural closeness with each other and so...like you can say the average person of so and so country in LATAM for example has these certain percentages but there are plenty of people who are either more Euro admixed, SSA, Amerindian, etc who are also of that country.

The average, say Cuban or whatever is like 70% euro or something...is the 80%+ SSA person from Santiago less "ethnically Cuban" than a more Euro admixed person? No, of course not.

Which is precisely why I made this thread. New World nations cannot really be understood to be nations in quite the same sense as their European and Asian counterparts.

[Diego Garcia]

Even Paraguay has a mixture of Mestizos, Spaniards, Brasiguayos, Mennonites and Guaranis.

In different proportions, though.

As a whole, both US-inhabitants and Mexicans couldn't be considered as ethnic groups, especially in the former, where you can find different ethnic groups from very different origins. The immense majority of the amerindian component is in the south west, where the misceneration of the native-americans --practically all native-americans in the USA are from the south west, the old spanish-mexican territories-- with the Iberians were also high, much less or practically null with the anglo element.

But given the fact that almost all ibero american countries inhabitants are mestizos --iberian with amerindian the most frequent, but also with another ethnic groups -- and that they're a majority in this area, and that the most common link amongst them would be the iberian element, since they were hundreds and hundreds different amerindian tribes, the ibero american population might be closer to constitue an ethnic group than the US-group.

That would be my hypothese.

[TrueIndepence]

It depends. If the racial admixture of the country is well distributed among the vast majority of its citizens, and they have a unified culture, then they can be considered a new ethnic group. Some countries in New World are close to being like that, but none of them can be described as countries with a characterizing ethnicity as of now.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yep, the process is still underway. Cape Verdeans, albeit not a New World nation, are farther on the ethnostate path than us.

I don't know. At one extreme you have the Haitians and their descendants, and at another extreme many among your elite are of pure/quasi-pure European or Levantine descent.

[Andullero]

I don't know. At one extreme you have the Haitians and their descendants, and at another extreme many among your elite are of pure/quasi-pure European or Levantine descent.

I will not consider them part of my nation as long as they cling to Creole and English as their main modes of thinking and worldview, respectively. One nation, one flag, one language and one culture under the sun, by the Grace of God.

[Tooting Carmen]

I will not consider them part of my nation as long as they cling to Creole and English as their main modes of thinking and worldview, respectively. One nation, one flag, one language and one culture under the sun, by the Grace of God.

Do the European and Levantine-descended elites mainly communicate in English?