The British 'Celts' are really just seperated Germanics? Agree or Not?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Modern Lithuanians and Latvians have over 80-something similarity to Russians, even though one group are Balts and the other one are Slavs (and if you tell to a Latvian "you are just a Russian with a weird language and a Protestant religion", you will probably get your face punched):

Do you have any East Prussian German samples mate ? I wonder are the genetically similar to Lithuanians or not

[Peterski]

Do you have any East Prussian German samples mate ? I wonder are the gentically similar to Lithuanians or not

They can range from fully Dutch-like (for example Vistula Delta Mennonites) to fully Lithuanian-like (for example Germanized Lietuvininkai) and everything in-between.

It was a very genetically diverse region.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

This guy is Eastern German (full genealogy can be found on his website), but a very Slavic-shifted one:

http://www.matthia.org/

Well this dude closest clusetring is with Slovenia like for me. It proves Slovenes are most German shifted Slavs if you ignore they are more southern puller compared to North Slavs ofc.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

They can range from fully Dutch-like (for example Vistula Delta Mennonites) to fully Lithuanian-like (for example Germanized Lietuvininkai) and everything in-between.

It was a very genetically diverse region.

what about those from Konigsberg for example ?

[Token]

Davidski suggests a Corded Ware connection here: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/0...r-beakers.html

Yeah, i'm following this discussion. There are some archeological problems with this theory (no battle-axes were ever found in a Beaker grave, for example) but i like it.

[Bellbeaking]

Sure Peterski. The Brits have obviously undergone some drift, making them their own category. But most of them in your thread tend to be more Dutch/Danish than French/Bavarian/Austrian

[Bellbeaking]

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Interesting stuff, here user Aren took out the foreigners.

[Dacul]

What do you understand by "Germanics"?
British Bell Beakers were not for sure protoGermanic people.
It seems they were protoCeltic people,in fact.
So, actually, it would be more correct to say that some Germanic speakers are having strong ancestry from British Celts and not only from British Celts, from Hallstatt Celts also, if we take South Germany and Austria.
Celts existed before Germanics, as ethnicities so British Celts could not be separated Germanics.
First time when a Germanic language reached Britain is with AngloSaxons.
Celts were in Britain, very clearly, before AngloSaxons came there.

[Bellbeaking]

What do you understand by "Germanics"?
British Bell Beakers were not for sure protoGermanic people.
It seems they were protoCeltic people,in fact.
So, actually, it would be more correct to say that some Germanic speakers are having strong ancestry from British Celts and not only from British Celts, from Hallstatt Celts also, if we take South Germany and Austria.
Celts existed before Germanics, as ethnicities so British Celts could not be separated Germanics.
First time when a Germanic language reached Britain is with AngloSaxons.
Celts were in Britain, very clearly, before AngloSaxons came there.

many think the british beakers, where in fact, not celts but proto-something else

[Bellbeaking]

What do you understand by "Germanics"?
British Bell Beakers were not for sure protoGermanic people.
It seems they were protoCeltic people,in fact.
So, actually, it would be more correct to say that some Germanic speakers are having strong ancestry from British Celts and not only from British Celts, from Hallstatt Celts also, if we take South Germany and Austria.
Celts existed before Germanics, as ethnicities so British Celts could not be separated Germanics.
First time when a Germanic language reached Britain is with AngloSaxons.
Celts were in Britain, very clearly, before AngloSaxons came there.

many think the british beakers, where in fact, not celts but proto-something else