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    This dude is Croat who's fully native to Dalmatia in last 600 years. Haplogroup J2

    Eurogenes K13
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 34.39
    2 North_Atlantic 26.92
    3 West_Med 14.89
    4 East_Med 12.56
    5 West_Asian 5.67
    6 Siberian 1.91
    7 South_Asian 1.28
    8 Red_Sea 1.22
    9 Oceanian 0.51
    10 Amerindian 0.47
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.11
    12 East_Asian 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croatian 4.06
    2 Moldavian 4.68
    3 Hungarian 6.31
    4 Serbian 7.81
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.58
    6 South_Polish 10.01
    7 Ukrainian 10.49
    8 Austrian 10.74
    9 East_German 10.81
    10 Romanian 11.55
    11 Polish 13.5
    12 Bulgarian 13.63
    13 Southwest_Russian 14.01
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.73
    15 Russian_Smolensk 15.64
    16 Estonian_Polish 15.85
    17 Belorussian 16.42
    18 Kargopol_Russian 17.85
    19 West_German 18.05
    20 Southwest_Finnish 18.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.9% Estonian_Polish + 38.1% Tuscan @ 1.73
    2 62.8% Southwest_Russian + 37.2% North_Italian @ 1.99
    3 52.3% Estonian + 47.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.05
    4 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% Tuscan @ 2.17
    5 64.8% Southwest_Russian + 35.2% Tuscan @ 2.19
    6 54.9% Lithuanian + 45.1% Tuscan @ 2.2
    7 74.1% Ukrainian + 25.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.21
    8 61.1% Belorussian + 38.9% Tuscan @ 2.43
    9 65.2% Estonian_Polish + 34.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.45
    10 79.7% South_Polish + 20.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.53
    11 59.5% Estonian + 40.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.53
    12 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% Tuscan @ 2.54
    13 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.56
    14 68% Serbian + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 2.59
    15 62.6% Estonian + 37.4% South_Italian @ 2.64
    16 58% Serbian + 42% Ukrainian @ 2.68
    17 69.4% South_Polish + 30.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
    18 59.9% Bulgarian + 40.1% Estonian @ 2.74
    19 79.8% South_Polish + 20.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.74
    20 58.4% Lithuanian + 41.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.77
    MDLP K16 modern
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NorthEastEuropean 27.32
    2 Caucasian 25.92
    3 Neolithic 24.71
    4 Steppe 19.38
    5 Siberian 0.94
    6 NearEast 0.55
    7 NorthAfrican 0.48
    8 Oceanic 0.3
    9 SouthEastAsian 0.27
    10 Indian 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croat (Croatia) 2.6
    2 Hungarian (Hungary) 3.1
    3 Hungarian (Budapest) 3.48
    4 Slovenian (Slovenia) 3.82
    5 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 3.83
    6 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 3.93
    7 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.23
    8 Slovak (Slovakia) 4.4
    9 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 4.48
    10 Pole (EastPoland) 4.86
    11 Pole (Wroclaw) 4.98
    12 Czech (Czechia) 5.05
    13 Cossack (Zaporozhie) 5.16
    14 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 5.67
    15 Austrian (Austria) 5.73
    16 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 5.88
    17 Dutch (Netherlands) 6.01
    18 Sorb (Lusatia) 6.04
    19 Pole (WestPoland) 6.06
    20 German (Germany) 6.14

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.7% Pole (EastPoland) + 32.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 1.63
    2 67.1% Pole (EastPoland) + 32.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.87
    3 90.9% Pole (EastPoland) + 9.1% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.9
    4 78.6% Pole (EastPoland) + 21.4% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 1.9
    5 78.6% Pole (EastPoland) + 21.4% Albanian (Albania) @ 1.91
    6 81.1% Pole (EastPoland) + 18.9% Greek (Macedonia) @ 1.95
    7 51.2% Belarusian (Belarus) + 48.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.97
    8 58.1% Pole (EastPoland) + 41.9% Serbian (Serbia) @ 2
    9 58.6% Serbian (Serbia) + 41.4% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.01
    10 54.4% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 45.6% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.05
    11 66.7% Pole (Wroclaw) + 33.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 2.06
    12 66.1% Belarusian (Belarus) + 33.9% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.07
    13 73.7% Croat (Croatia) + 26.3% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.08
    14 84.8% Croat (Croatia) + 15.2% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.08
    15 84.2% Croat (Croatia) + 15.8% Pole (Poland) @ 2.1
    16 79.3% Pole (EastPoland) + 20.7% Greek (Greece) @ 2.11
    17 76.2% Pole (EastPoland) + 23.8% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 2.11
    18 54.3% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 45.7% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.12
    19 75% Croat (Croatia) + 25% Pole (Wroclaw) @ 2.13
    20 89.1% Pole (EastPoland) + 10.9% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 2.14
    Puntdnal K15
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_European 53.13
    2 Mediterranean 28.4
    3 Caucasian 10.41
    4 SW_Asian 4.11
    5 Horn_Of_Africa 0.96
    6 Beringian 0.94
    7 S_Indian 0.93
    8 Siberian 0.87
    9 Oceanian 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Hungarian 2.94
    2 Croatian 3.11
    3 Austrian 3.21
    4 Slovenian 3.74
    5 Irish 3.92
    6 South_German 4.38
    7 Utahn_White 4.41
    8 Orcadian 4.45
    9 English 4.67
    10 North_German 5.67
    11 Scottish 6.09
    12 Serbian 6.57
    13 Norwegian 6.99
    14 French 7.29
    15 Swedish 9.06
    16 Bosnian 10.72
    17 Polish 11.91
    18 Macedonian 12.21
    19 Romanian 13.53
    20 Bulgarian 14.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.7% Norwegian + 11.3% Druze @ 0.94
    2 50.6% Belarusian + 49.4% Italian @ 1.03
    3 85.5% Swedish + 14.5% Samaritian @ 1.12
    4 87.7% Norwegian + 12.3% Lebanese @ 1.14
    5 54.4% Polish + 45.6% Bulgarian @ 1.15
    6 87.9% Norwegian + 12.1% Palestinian @ 1.16
    7 86.8% Hungarian + 13.2% Spaniard @ 1.2
    8 88.2% Norwegian + 11.8% Jordanian @ 1.21
    9 88.5% Norwegian + 11.5% Samaritian @ 1.22
    10 60.8% Norwegian + 39.2% Bosnian @ 1.24
    11 88.2% Norwegian + 11.8% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.27
    12 84.7% Swedish + 15.3% Cypriot @ 1.27
    13 88.1% Norwegian + 11.9% Syrian @ 1.28
    14 83.4% Slovenian + 16.6% Spaniard @ 1.29
    15 92.8% Slovenian + 7.2% Sardinian @ 1.32
    16 66.7% Polish + 33.3% Albanian @ 1.33
    17 53.2% Polish + 46.8% Romanian @ 1.33
    18 57.4% Polish + 42.6% Montenegrin @ 1.35
    19 78.9% Swedish + 21.1% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.38
    20 90.5% Hungarian + 9.5% Basque @ 1.39
    Eurogenes K15
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 21.58
    2 North_Sea 20.18
    3 Eastern_Euro 14.94
    4 Atlantic 14.62
    5 West_Med 10.98
    6 East_Med 8.69
    7 West_Asian 5.03
    8 Red_Sea 1.29
    9 South_Asian 1.11
    10 Siberian 0.97
    11 Oceanian 0.43
    12 Amerindian 0.16
    13 Sub-Saharan 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 3.76
    2 Croatian 4.2
    3 Hungarian 5.2
    4 Serbian 7.89
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.95
    6 Austrian 8.43
    7 Ukrainian 8.61
    8 South_Polish 8.75
    9 East_German 10.24
    10 Romanian 10.5
    11 Polish 11.38
    12 Russian_Smolensk 12.49
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.79
    14 Bulgarian 12.91
    15 Southwest_Russian 13.01
    16 Belorussian 14.37
    17 Estonian_Polish 14.42
    18 Southwest_Finnish 14.81
    19 Finnish 14.89
    20 Kargopol_Russian 15.51

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 76% Ukrainian + 24% West_Sicilian @ 1.61
    2 73.1% Ukrainian + 26.9% Tuscan @ 1.78
    3 79.9% Ukrainian + 20.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.02
    4 70.1% Ukrainian + 29.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.03
    5 75.3% Ukrainian + 24.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.08
    6 78.1% Ukrainian + 21.9% South_Italian @ 2.11
    7 80.5% Ukrainian + 19.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.17
    8 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.18
    9 76% Ukrainian + 24% Central_Greek @ 2.27
    10 52.4% Serbian + 47.6% Ukrainian @ 2.36
    11 77.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.41
    12 80.5% Ukrainian + 19.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.41
    13 71.8% Ukrainian + 28.2% Greek @ 2.42
    14 75.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.9% Tuscan @ 2.5
    15 50.2% Serbian + 49.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
    16 70% South_Polish + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.55
    17 63.8% Polish + 36.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.58
    18 75.7% Ukrainian + 24.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.61
    19 55.4% Ukrainian + 44.6% Romanian @ 2.63
    20 55.7% Estonian + 44.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.76
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    Another Croatian dude Anđelko plotted this guy on K13 PCA (never seen that type of map before though)

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vt4bk226vm...ybril.png?dl=0

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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bcn6tnnuj...ybril.png?dl=0

    He goes by name Cybril

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    This kinda confirms what I tought, Dalmatians aren't very southern shifted they are in fact more eastern shifted compared to north Croats and Slovenes. This guy seem very Slavic with some Illyrian but lacks German type of admix north has. not suprised Dalmatia has more Slavic YDNA than north Croatia, seem to reflect in autosomal also. His haplogroup is some kind of native Balkan though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    This kinda confirms what I tought, Dalmatians aren't very southern shifted they are in fact more eastern shifted compared to north Croats and Slovenes. This guy seem very Slavic with some Illyrian but lacks German type of admix north has. not suprised Dalmatia has more Slavic YDNA than north Croatia, seem to reflect in autosomal also. His haplogroup is some kind of native Balkan though
    Jana was very angry when somebody connects Dalmatians with Italians, Romans, Vlachs, Albanians, paleo-Balkanites... https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...omance-people!

    Do you know which branch of R1b is Dalmatian guy noliđ from forum.hr?

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    If this guy is true pre ottoman migrations native Dalmatian his results make sense; I would like to see results of a Croat from Dalmatian hinterland; many of them came from Herzegovina along with Serbs fleeing Ottomans during late middle ages, I would guess they would plot differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Jana was very angry when somebody connects Dalmatians with Italians, Romand, Vlachs, Albanians, paleo-Balkanites... https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...omance-people!

    Do you know which branch of R1b is Dalmatian guy noliđ from forum.hr?
    Yes i know. Dude is probably Balkanic branch or maybe Italian but not sure. Dalmatians look like mix of Slavs and Vlachs and not much more. But Slavic element is very strong, she's right about that.
    they aren't central euros because they have no german dna at all. more like east slav with some balkan, what do you think ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Yes i know. Dude is probably Balkanic branch or maybe Italian but not sure. Dalmatians look like mix of Slavs and Vlachs and not much more. But Slavic element is very strong, she's right about that.
    they aren't central euros because they have no german dna at all. more like east slav with some balkan, what do you think ?
    Same as northern Croats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    If this guy is true pre ottoman migrations native Dalmatian his results make sense; I would like to see results of a Croat from Dalmatian hinterland; many of them came from Herzegovina along with Serbs fleeing Ottomans during late middle ages, I would guess they would plot differently.
    Yeah looks like he is, if he is native to Dalmatia for 600 years it's pre-Ottoman period. I think some dude from hinterland posted his results, I'll go to see if I can find them.
    don't know which part od dalmatia is this guy from though, Jana asked him but he hasn't answered yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    This dude is Croat who's fully native to Dalmatia in last 600 years. Haplogroup J2
    Add Dodecad K12 please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Same as northern Croats.
    That's not true man, north Croats are more like Slovenians, mix of Slavic, Germans and Vlachs and more western shifted. Dalmatians are just Slavs with Vlachs and no Germans, but probably more Slavic than north Croats overall.

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