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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    More precisely, this church was build in the 6th century in a Roman town.
    This means that there was a Latinophone population living there in the 6th century.

    Unless of course, Huns built the church in a Roman town, which is most idiotic argument Hungarian nationalists offered me in a while.
    In reality, Huns sacked the city once (5th century), but it was rebuilt. The church was raised afterwards.
    1. There was no Roman Empire in 6. century, it was destroyed in 5. century by goths.

    2. This is the Eastern Roman Empire:



    Romania was not latin area, so there were no roman towns in Transylvania in 6. century.

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    of course, I'm talking about Eastern Roman Empire, how hard was to figure that out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    of course, I'm talking about Eastern Roman Empire, how hard was to figure that out?
    But Transylvania was not a part of Eastern Roman Empire, neither Wallachia or Moldova, only a little part of Dobruja, and there was no latin speaker population in the lands on other side of the Danube, Procopius wrote:

    "The River Ister (Danube) flows down from the mountains in the country of the Celts, who are now called Gauls; and it passes through a great extent of country which for the most part is altogether barren, though in some places it is inhabited by barbarians who live a kind of brutish life and have no dealings with other men. When it gets close to Dacia, for the first time it clearly forms the boundary between the barbarians, who hold its left bank, and the territory of the Romans, which is on the right".
    Peri Ktismaton (Buildings), Book IV, 9-10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    But Transylvania was not a part of Eastern Roman Empire, neither Wallachia or Moldova, only a little part of Dobruja, and there was no latin speaker population in the lands on other side of the Danube
    Writing the same nonsense all over again doesn't make it true.
    See in the map below the territories held by the Roman Empire North of Danube during Constantine the Great rule (4th century), which contradicts directly what you said.

    And not only that: Roman towns existed outside the area explicitly claimed by the Romans, like Apulum for instance, which was most likely continuously inhabited during the early Middle Age.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Writing the same nonsense all over again doesn't make it true.
    See in the map below the territories held by the Roman Empire North of Danube during Constantine the Great rule (4th century), which contradicts directly what you said.

    And not only that: Roman towns existed outside the area explicitly claimed by the Romans, like Apulum for instance, which was most likely continuously inhabited during the early Middle Age.

    So the romanians nationalists knows better than old chroniclers? This is all romanian sources... What is the proof of these population was latin speaker? Nothing... Dacia was home of goths, huns and gepids in 4-5. dentury:

    "By 376 a new wave of migratory people, the Huns, reached Transylvania, triggering conflict with the Visigothic kingdom.[citation needed] Hoping to find refuge from the Huns, Fritigern (a Visigothic leader) appealed to the Roman emperor Valens in 376 to be allowed to settle with his people on the south bank of the Danube. However, a famine broke out and Rome was unable to supply them with food or land. As a result, the Goths rebelled against the Romans for several years. The Huns fought the Alans, Vandals, and Quadi, forcing them toward the Roman Empire. Pannonia became the centre during the peak of Attila's reign (435–453).[15]
    After Attila's death, the Hunnic empire disintegrated. In 455 the Gepids (under king Ardarich) conquered Pannonia, allowing them to settle for two centuries in Transylvania.[15] Their rule ended with attacks by the Lombards and Avars in 567.[15] Very few Gepid sites (such as cemeteries in the Banat region) after 600 remain; they were apparently assimilated by the Avar empire. "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania

    The local dacian population was assimilated by huns and goths, gepids, there is no proof for dacian-vlach connection who lived 600-700 years later there...

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    I just saw your kit in my match list.


    Largest segment = 8.2 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.2 cM (0.228 Pct)
    Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.2

    1 shared segments found for this comparison.

    542795 SNPs used for this comparison.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I just saw your kit in my match list.


    Largest segment = 8.2 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.2 cM (0.228 Pct)
    Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.2

    1 shared segments found for this comparison.

    542795 SNPs used for this comparison.

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    Sorry, Ford, for bumping this shit
    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 43
    2 Atlantic_Med 26.71
    3 Caucasus 20.66
    4 Southwest_Asian 4.76
    5 Gedrosia 2.96
    6 Siberian 1.46
    7 Northwest_African 0.41
    8 East_Asian 0.05
    Code:
    Ford,2.96,1.46,0.41,0,26.71,43,0,0,4.76,0.05,20.66,0
    
    Distance to: Ford
    2.46799514 Bosnian
    2.71197345 Croat
    3.25076914 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    4.52921627 Serb
    5.82374450 HUN_Szekely
    7.37774356 Hungarians
    8.10520820 Montenegrin
    10.36199788 Macedonian
    10.88517800 Romanians
    11.13520992 Pomak
    
    Target: Ford
    Distance: 2.0120% / 2.01202549 | ADC: 0.5x
    54.6 Croat
    39.0 Bosnian
    6.4 Bulgarians
    
    Target: Ford
    Distance: 1.4852% / 1.48520026 | ADC: 0.25x
    83.4 Croat
    13.8 Bulgarians
    2.4 Mixed_Slav
    0.4 Nganassan

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