Would you support a US military intervention in Venezuela?

[Teutone]

Sometime in the future an Alpinid will be reading the quoted post on his laptop, and on a planet other than earth.

The good thing, the private space company doesnt care about your heritage in order to hire a person, but skill.

The USA didint cared von Braun was German, on some point leading to sucess.

[The Lawspeaker]

There is another problem for the Russians when it comes to their famed engine. The U.S is replacing is and has been working towards it for a couple of years now.

[The Lawspeaker]

The good thing, the private space company doesnt care about your heritage in order to hire a person, but skill.

The USA didint cared von Braun was German, on some point leading to sucess.

When Wernher von Braun became Werner Brown and took them to the moon. "One small step for Man, a giant leap for Mankind !"

[Dna8]

The good thing, the private space company doesnt care about your heritage in order to be hired, but skill.

The USA didint cared von Braun was German, on some point leading to sucess.

Skill always trumps heritage, as goes the immediate context of our exchange (or at least I'd like to think)..

Take Joseph Conrad, for instance.. English was only his third language and yet he is universally considered as one of the great Masters of the English language..

[Teutone]

When Wernher von Braun became Werner Brown and took them to the moon. "One small step for Man, a giant leap for Mankind !"

They outsourced him lol

[The Lawspeaker]

They outsourced him lol

We should have put in charge of ESA. Than it would be Europeans saying those words. But too bad: ESA was only created in 1975. Division, division. The hallmark of Western Europe until the EEC kicked into full gear.

[Sarmatian]

Lol no China abolished the planned economy and established a free market based on demand and supply. It is only labelling communist, its common knowledge.

No it didn't. They changed it by allowing more freedom to private enterprises. Still much of economy is being planned, even large private companies making living on orders placed by government based on plans.

In a communist planned economy the communist/socialist estimates the needs of the people and orders the privatized companies to produce along the estimates, in a free market, private companies compete with eachother to fullfill the need of the consumer.

Are you going to lecture me on planned economy? What do you know about it? Do you know in 1930-50's there were over 80,000 private companies in USSR? First TV in USSR was designed and produced by private company. About one third of all ammunition during WWII in USSR was produced by private companies. All of this private sector was incorporated into planned economy. I bet you didn't know that. Virtually all you know about USSR economy is propaganda.

Its funny yoi mention the Soviet Space program, which was infact the greatest aspect of the soviet union, you know why?

Cause it was in active competition with NASA, leading both to reach their peak, cause competition is a natural order leading to progress.

Again you know nothing. Space program was spin off from military missile developments. Basically if you can launch payload into space you have yourself functional ICBM. For Russians it was the case of survival. Because West have quite a number of madman like Churchill who was demanding from US to nuke USSR. Lucky for the world US administration at the time had more sanity but even today they still have freaks like McCain popping out here and there.

And frankly the private space companies will achieve more than the government run space agencies in near future.

Another Musk believer?

[Sarmatian]

Sarmatian you always feel attacked, maybe geopolitical discussions doesnt suit you if you emotionally involved.

You know how often I read about people here criticizing my Nation and history?

I agree when they right and disagree when they wrong, no need to create a childish false image about it.

Russia pretty much improved the last years, hard to maintain such a diverse country, it needs an iron fist.

Without sanction Putin maybe will aim for a more diverse economy and fight the dependency on natural resources. The Russiam arms industry is quite impressive again.

That's where you are outright wrong, I'm having a lot of fun here. I simply have low tolerance for misinformation and it happens so I know much about USSR and can hardly stand people repeating myths about it over and over. When people are just spewing hatred I stay away from it but where more or less rational discussion is possible I sometimes jumping in.

The thing is I don't blame any of you for the view you have. Much of what you know came from Russians themselves. We do have pretty intense cultural debate about past and future going on in Russian speaking sphere. It started 100 years ago, passed through pretty intense escalations and presented itself into that ugliness we call Ukraine today.

But it's coming to resolution. Many lies fabricated during collapse of USSR and before that are being refuted. So expect more and more of what I'm telling you but in more consistent academic way. However I have reasons to believe soon you'll have problems far greater than learning truths about Russian/Soviet history.

[Teutone]

No it didn't. They changed it by allowing more freedom to private enterprises. Still much of economy is being planned, even large private companies making living on orders placed by government based on plans.



Are you going to lecture me on planned economy? What do you know about it? Do you know in 1930-50's there were over 80,000 private companies in USSR? First TV in USSR was designed and produced by private company. About one third of all ammunition during WWII in USSR was produced by private companies. All of this private sector was incorporated into planned economy. I bet you didn't know that. Virtually all you know about USSR economy is propaganda.



Again you know nothing. Space program was spin off from military missile developments. Basically if you can launch payload into space you have yourself functional ICBM. For Russians it was the case of survival. Because West have quite a number of madman like Churchill who was demanding from US to nuke USSR. Lucky for the world US administration at the time had more sanity but even today they still have freaks like McCain popping out here and there.



Another Musk believer?

Ofc not 100% of the companies were nationalized just as not every company in the west is privatized, neverless the vast mayority was state run, so where is the myth?

Whatever the reason for the space program was, you just proved it was part of competition lol even if its compete to survive.

And I dont give a shit if its Musk or something else, goverments are inefficent and a free market leads to efficency, therfor the private sector will outpeform in the space like it did with any other sector.

I bet in Soviet Russia you havent heard of Austrian school of economics.

[The Lawspeaker]

And of course - a lot of "private" companies would have been state firms masquerading as one since they would be (just like in China) owned by a party big shot. All part of the maskirovka.