Yaglakar's FTDNA autosomal results

[Turul Karom]

Congratulations on the punctual results, my brother, and know that we wish you all the best in the world.

[Leto]

I think Central Asian population references are not accurate because sample sizes are very small. A few weeks ago I took a look at Dodecad project and sample sizes are like 5-10 people for Central Asia. I mean Kipchaq Uzbeks who descend from Uzbek horde are very different from Samarqand or Bukhara ones and northern Uyghurs of Xinjiang are quite different from southern ones. They even descend from entirely different medieval states. Half of my ancestry is from southern Xinjiang and another half from northern. Both my father's and mother's side moved to Soviet Union in 1950s which makes us recent immigrants. I did not speak Russian until the age of 7-8 because I grew up with my grandfather. But now my command of Russian is probably better than yours.

Do you also speak Kazakh?

[Leto]

I think Central Asian population references are not accurate because sample sizes are very small. A few weeks ago I took a look at Dodecad project and sample sizes are like 5-10 people for Central Asia. I mean Kipchaq Uzbeks who descend from Uzbek horde are very different from Samarqand or Bukhara ones and northern Uyghurs of Xinjiang are quite different from southern ones. They even descend from entirely different medieval states.

Uzbeks on GEDmatch are around 40% mongoloid. I don't know but the ones I've seen in Russia were often pretty dark, very brown. Like they have some South Asian admixture or something. But then again, 45% of Uzbekistan's population lives in the East (Andijan, Fergana, Namangan, Tashkent and the city of Tashkent).

[Yaglakar]

Do you also speak Kazakh?

On a conversational level, yes. something like b1-b2.

[Leto]

On a conversational level, yes. something like b1-b2.

So Uyghurs in KZ are mostly Russian-speaking?

[Yaglakar]

Uzbeks on GEDmatch are around 40% mongoloid. I don't know but the ones I've seen in Russia were often pretty dark, very brown. Like they have some South Asian admixture or something. But then again, 45% of Uzbekistan's population lives in the East (Andijan, Fergana, Namangan, Tashkent and the city of Tashkent).

Uzbekistan was one of the large centers of Iranic world before the Mongols wrecked the place. Sogdians were very prominent in ancient history. They were basically everywhere China, Mongolia, Caucasus. A large part of west eurasian and south asian heritage in Central Asians is likely from them.

[Yaglakar]

So Uyghurs in KZ are mostly Russian-speaking?

Yes. Uyghurs don't send their kids to Kyrgyz or Kazakh schools. Plus, great majority live in cities where lingua franca is Russian.

[Leto]

Yes. Uyghurs don't send their kids to Kyrgyz or Kazakh schools. Plus, great majority live in cities where lingua franca is Russian.

But over 95% live in Almaty oblast and the city of Almaty, according to Wikipedia. Those are clearly Kazakh majority places. Do you guys get along with Kazakhs?
There was a guy from KZ on TA, Hochmeister. He was European (Russian + some German and Greek), he said it was a damn sultanate now, under Nazarbayev and he didn't feel home there

[Leto]

@Yaglakar, you can take a look at ButlerKing's thread about Uyghurs. The guy is actually South Asian and also pretty retarded
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...hlight=Uyghurs

[Yaglakar]

But over 95% live in Almaty oblast and the city of Almaty, according to Wikipedia. Those are clearly Kazakh majority places. Do you guys get along with Kazakhs?
There was a guy from KZ on TA, Hochmeister. He was European (Russian + some German and Greek), he said it was a damn sultanate now, under Nazarbayev and he didn't feel home there

I don't know about sultanate thingy, Kazakhstan as a state is secular and authoritarian, similar to Russia with some distinct tribal elements here and there. This is more or less Soviet heritage. I think on a personal level, Uyghurs and Kazakhs get along, but recently with the spread of ethno-nationalism central asian turkics are distancing themselves from others claiming common historical heritage or the heritage of others in the region. Many trolls on the internet. I am also seeing increased hatred between Kazakhs and Kyrgyz on the net.

@Yaglakar, you can take a look at ButlerKing's thread about Uyghurs. The guy is actually South Asian and also pretty retarded
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...hlight=Uyghurs

Butlerking is hilarious. He adds colour to the forum. Marmara has a good set of retarded quotes posted by forum members, and in one instance he quoted Butlerking. I laughed for good ten minutes. There he states that to create a successful and beautiful offspring, south asian male has to sleep with a white euro female. Butlerking wants a white girl, can't get one therefore is obsessed with Caucasoidness.