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    Default Neolithic GAC Farmers on GEDmatch

    Globular Amphora Culture (GAC), sample RISE1168, male, Y-DNA haplogroup I2a2a1b2a-L801.

    These particular GAC samples are from Koszyce in Southern Poland:



    Kit number on GEDmatch Genesis (just uploaded it) - DF4610811

    Eurogenes K13 results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 46.18
    2 North_Atlantic 36.99
    3 East_Med 9.68
    4 Baltic 7.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_French 16.09
    2 Spanish_Aragon 16.34
    3 Spanish_Andalucia 16.58
    4 Spanish_Cantabria 16.6
    5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.1
    6 French_Basque 17.44
    7 Sardinian 17.8
    8 Spanish_Valencia 17.97
    9 Spanish_Extremadura 18.77
    10 Spanish_Murcia 19.32
    11 Spanish_Galicia 19.41
    12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.47
    13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.83
    14 Portuguese 20.18
    15 North_Italian 22.22
    16 French 26.75
    17 Tuscan 26.92
    18 South_Dutch 31.81
    19 West_Sicilian 31.86
    20 West_German 32.48

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Sardinian @ 4.42

    2 53.2% Southwest_French + 46.8% Sardinian @ 7.82
    3 52.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.6% Sardinian @ 8.78
    4 53% Spanish_Aragon + 47% Sardinian @ 8.92
    5 68.4% Sardinian + 31.6% Southwest_English @ 8.95
    6 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% West_Scottish @ 9.15
    7 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Irish @ 9.27
    8 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Orcadian @ 9.45
    9 69.2% Sardinian + 30.8% Southeast_English @ 9.68
    10 51.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 48.5% Sardinian @ 9.91
    11 72.8% Sardinian + 27.2% Norwegian @ 9.92
    12 71.7% Sardinian + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 10.01
    13 72.1% Sardinian + 27.9% Danish @ 10.19
    14 73.7% Sardinian + 26.3% Swedish @ 10.44
    15 53.9% Sardinian + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.49
    16 50.4% Sardinian + 49.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.66
    17 53.3% Sardinian + 46.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.67
    18 52.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.1% Sardinian @ 10.73
    19 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% South_Dutch @ 10.78
    20 72.5% Sardinian + 27.5% North_German @ 10.8
    Last edited by Peterski; 02-03-2019 at 01:11 AM. Reason: Changed titled from: Neolithic Polish Farmer to: Neolithic GAC Farmers

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    . Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Sardinian @ 4.42
    2 53.2% Southwest_French + 46.8% Sardinian @ 7.82
    3 52.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.6% Sardinian @ 8.78
    4 53% Spanish_Aragon + 47% Sardinian @ 8.92
    5 68.4% Sardinian + 31.6% Southwest_English @ 8.95
    6 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% West_Scottish @ 9.15
    7 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Irish @ 9.27
    8 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Orcadian @ 9.45
    9 69.2% Sardinian + 30.8% Southeast_English @ 9.68
    10 51.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 48.5% Sardinian @ 9.91
    11 72.8% Sardinian + 27.2% Norwegian @ 9.92
    12 71.7% Sardinian + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 10.01
    13 72.1% Sardinian + 27.9% Danish @ 10.19
    14 73.7% Sardinian + 26.3% Swedish @ 10.44
    15 53.9% Sardinian + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.49
    16 50.4% Sardinian + 49.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.66
    17 53.3% Sardinian + 46.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.67
    18 52.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.1% Sardinian @ 10.73
    19 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% South_Dutch @ 10.78
    20 72.5% Sardinian + 27.5% North_German @ 10.8
    These neolithic farmers were highly homogenous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuk View Post
    These neolithic farmers were highly homogenous
    This one has higher than average hunter-gatherer (WHG probably) admixture, that's why he is closer to Basques than to Sardinians.

    Eurogenes K36:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 7.61 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 9.81 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 0.14 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 6.54 Pct
    Iberian 31.16 Pct

    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 21.84 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 0.63 Pct
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 22.26 Pct

    ^^^ His ancestors 15,000 years ago:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    This one has higher than average hunter-gatherer (WHG probably) admixture, that's why he is closer to Basques than to Sardinians.

    Eurogenes K36:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 7.61 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 9.81 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 0.14 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 6.54 Pct
    Iberian 31.16 Pct

    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 21.84 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 0.63 Pct
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 22.26 Pct
    Makes sense. The farther away from Anatolia, the less ENF ancestry.

    MDLP K23b Oracle results:

    MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

    Kit DF4610811

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 55.42
    2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 20.77
    3 Caucasian 14.98
    4 Near_East 4.53
    5 North_African 4.29

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 French_South ( ) 7.81
    2 Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) 7.99
    3 Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) 8.16
    4 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) 8.67
    5 Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) 10
    6 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) 11.43
    7 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 13.61
    8 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) 13.91
    9 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 13.99
    10 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 14.61
    11 Sardinian ( ) 15.04
    12 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 15.39
    13 Spaniard ( ) 16.06
    14 Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) 17.46
    15 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 20.51
    16 Portugese ( ) 21.05
    17 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 21.38
    18 French ( ) 23.56
    19 Basque_Spanish ( ) 26.9
    20 Welsh ( ) 27.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.2% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) + 32.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.08
    2 67.8% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) + 32.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.09
    3 66.2% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) + 33.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.68
    4 68.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 31.8% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 5.33
    5 71.2% French_South ( ) + 28.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.35
    6 62.9% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 37.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.73
    7 67.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.4% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 5.81
    8 66.4% Basque_French ( ) + 33.6% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 5.83
    9 82.3% Sardinian ( ) + 17.7% Saami ( ) @ 5.85
    10 58.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 41.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 5.86
    11 50.9% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 49.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.94
    12 66.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 33.9% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 5.95
    13 56.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 43.9% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 5.97
    14 52.2% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 47.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.99
    15 67.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.8% Italian_Jew ( ) @ 6
    16 68.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 31.3% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 6.02
    17 64.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 35.3% Maltese ( ) @ 6.03
    18 67.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.9% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 6.03
    19 53.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 46.9% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 6.09
    20 69.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 30.3% Italian_South ( ) @ 6.13

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    From Artek, Y-DNA haplogroups of GAC males from Neolithic Koszyce (near Cracow):

    RISE1160: I2a2a1b-CTS10057
    RISE1162: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1163: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1165: I2a2a1b2-Z161
    RISE1168: I2a2a1b2a-L801 -> this is the one I uploaded so far
    RISE1169: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1171: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1173: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1241: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1250: I2a2a-L59
    RISE1252: I2a2a1-CTS616
    RISE1254: I2a2a1b2a-L801

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    In 2011 archaeological excavations near the village of Koszyce, Poland, uncovered a 5000-year-old mass burial with the remains of 15 men, women and children belonging to the Globular Amphora culture. All had suffered violent deaths but had been buried with great care.

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    Very cool

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    Interesting. His and mine Ancient Eurasia K6. Although the admix results are different, there's some similarities in the oracles


    # Population Percent
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 54.79
    2 Natufian 42.02
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 2.89
    4 Sub_Saharan 0.3

    80.5% Sardinian + 19.5% WHG @ 3.05

    Anatolia_N + Natufian + SHG + WHG @ 1.922715




    # Population Percent
    1 Natufian 40.32
    2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 39.49
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.19

    81% Sardinian + 19% EHG @ 1.44

    Anatolia_N + EHG + Natufian + WHG @ 0.000000

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    How do you get the raw data for ancient samples

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    this guy had definately some steppe ancestry (24% steppe on Gedrosia K12), and is modeled as 50% Basque (basques are 30% steppe) which would agree with Gimbautas theory that GAC was the earliest intrusion of indo-european peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    this guy had definately some steppe ancestry (24% steppe on Gedrosia K12), and is modeled as 50% Basque (basques are 30% steppe) which would agree with Gimbautas theory that GAC was the earliest intrusion of indo-european peoples.
    GAC had zero steppe admixture, the algorithm is just compensating for higher WHG admixture with a relatively low steppe and WHG-rich modern population on the lack of more proximate sources.

    Btw Peterski, how many SNPs were used in this run?

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