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Ah yes, then, Stalingrad also 'fell,' because a civilian administrative building was taken. War is capture the flag, and you can't move the flag.
As I said a while ago I am sure Mariupol will eventually fall. Even Russia does not claim it has yet fallen though. Only its sycophants, like you. Until then it is still engaging a five-figure number of Russian troops who can't be used elsewhere.
1) I never said this so it's not relevant. It's intellectual dishonesty for YOU to bring up supposed inconsistency of other people who are 'on my side.' I don't make fun of you by saying 'Silverknight changes his opinion every five minutes' because you have nothing to do with his stupidity and rank dishonesty, only your own.I never realized there was a battle for Kiev since WW2, as since then there was never an attempt to storm and take control of the city.
Curious because the same analysts who sustained it was impossible to take a huge sprawling 3.5 million city with just a few dozens of thousand men are the same arguing the Russian failed at that pseudo objective that was impossible in the first place. A bit of intellectual honesty and coherence is too much to ask for?
2) Whilst I disagree with their point it's actually not inconsistent. You could believe Russia was dumb enough to undertake a task you think was impossible. If you had an IQ of over 80 you'd have realised that.
Point 3) is 'why?' Why did Russia go to the North to begin with? 'To invade the South.' OK, how did invading the North help? 'It tied up troops.' OK, so why did you leave before the South was invaded? Or for that matter engage in artillery duels, seizures of airfields (that were unsuccessful) or other complete wastes of ammunition, considering you don't need to be aggressive to 'tie up troops?' 'Uh...duh...muhhhh...'
Russia obviously suffered serious setbacks, you have to be head-deep in Putin's arse not to recognise that.
A pity you can't argue your own point and get curbstomped in debate. 'Neutral,' kek. Everyone has an agenda.A pity you don't like long explanatory videos from real experts with a broad, neutral, non propagandistic analysis, it would greatly increase your understanding of the strategic and military scenario on the ground.
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