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Thread: Germanic chieftain from Poprad (Slovakia), 375-400 AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    LOL, maybe you have it?

    It scores Slavic and Celtic (French & Scottish) admixtures in Global25 (just like on GEDmatch from my upload!):

    http://www.historycy.org/index.php?s...post&p=1730839

    "distance%=2.0792"

    Poprad: DA119

    Norwegian,32.2
    German,27.2
    Scottish,25.8
    Slovakian,4.6
    French_East,2.6
    Cossack_Kuban,1.4
    Shetlandic,1

    ^^^ But you claimed that such results are "because of Vandal ancestry of modern Slovaks". Your comment:



    It scores Slavic ????

    Slavic = 6%

    Very substantial admixture indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    It scores Slavic ????

    Slavic = 6%
    You forgot about German Average (27% in that model) which contains some Slavic because it is not just West German.

    GEDmatch models this sample as Norwegian + French + Polish mix. Norwegians are not part-Slavic, but Germans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    You forgot about German Average (27% in that model) which contains some Slavic because it is not just West German.

    GEDmatch models this sample as Norwegian + French + Polish mix. Norwegians are not part-Slavic, but Germans are.
    YOU ARE DEFEATED...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    You forgot about German Average (27% in that model) which contains some Slavic because it is not just West German.

    GEDmatch models this sample as Norwegian + French + Polish mix. Norwegians are not part-Slavic, but Germans are.
    Peterski can you use your nerd skills to create PCA chart for Poland, will be appreciated

    Or if you don't want, then I will make myself but I I will put your kits there and label them (Peterski Krabat 1,2,etc)

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    What culture is he affiliated with prezworsk? I'm sure chernyakhov culture results will be similar..... Still waiting for polish archaeologists to go to ukraina and sample some bones.

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    “He spent a significant part of his short life in the Mediterranean region,” Pieta said, as quoted by SITA. “We know it thanks to isotope analysis that revealed his eating habits and those are Mediterranean. It is possible that he was part of an imperial Roman court or served in the Roman army as a prominent officer,” he added, as quoted by SITA

    https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22202489/...years-ago.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Yeah it looks like it. But how is it possible? He is dated to 4th century AD. Not too early for Slavs in Slovakia?
    Pterski, take a look at Rise479 from Vatya Hungary 1AD below, he was "Slavic" 2000 years ago already, just like most Skythian samples we have even 600 years before.

    Rise479
    1. Polish (15.15)
    2. South_Polish (15.39)
    3. Russian_Smolensk (15.98)
    4. Croatian (16.61)
    5. Belorussian (16.69)
    6. Ukrainian_Lviv (16.71)
    7. Estonian_Polish (16.90)
    8. Ukrainian (16.91)

    Did you think Slavs spread over an somehow empty Eastern and Central Eastern Europe within 150 years with every woman having 50+ children on average?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    Pterski, take a look at Rise479 from Vatya Hungary 1AD below, he was "Slavic" 2000 years ago already, just like most Skythian samples we have even 600 years before.
    Not sure what this is supposed to mean, someone being more Eastern-shifted doesn't means Slavs were around Hungary during this time.


    Did you think Slavs spread over an somehow empty Eastern and Central Eastern Europe within 150 years with every woman having 50+ children on average?
    What "somehow"? Ever heard of the migration period? Of the late antique little ice age? Of the fall of the Western Roman Empire? Of the Avars? Slavs encountered a largely underpopulated region and took advantage of efficient agricultural technique to create a system parallel to the Steppe-Byzantine paradigm, plus we don't have many records of the process so we can't say for sure how quick it really was. Plus obviously the Slavs incorporated many people in the Balkan region which would have been the one with most people anyway.

    I guess though Slavs were always around the corner, right in front of the Romans and yet nobody recorded them and they left no linguistic evidence of their presence in any kind of form nor where they affected by Celtic or Latin populations either.

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    Using 100/1cM I am matching few segments mostly in Baltic part with this sample
    Largest segment = 2.6 cM
    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.2 cM (0.228 Pct)
    5 shared segments found for this comparison.
    338432 SNPs used for this comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    Pterski, take a look at Rise479 from Vatya Hungary 1AD below, he was "Slavic" 2000 years ago already, just like most Skythian samples we have even 600 years before.

    Rise479
    1. Polish (15.15)
    2. South_Polish (15.39)
    3. Russian_Smolensk (15.98)
    4. Croatian (16.61)
    5. Belorussian (16.69)
    6. Ukrainian_Lviv (16.71)
    7. Estonian_Polish (16.90)
    8. Ukrainian (16.91)

    Did you think Slavs spread over an somehow empty Eastern and Central Eastern Europe within 150 years with every woman having 50+ children on average?
    Early Indo-aryan spread in South Asia there were many legends & stories of 100+ sons for warrior kings. So 50 is not a big number for a well bred family

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