Who was "Golden Horde European" DA29 from Kazakhstan?

**~~War Chef~~** · 02-13-2019, 01:40 AM

Just some young Lithuanian back-packer/adventurer looking for some action.

**Not a Cop** · 02-13-2019, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by LukaszM

Teutonic Knights as Christians couldn't sell slaves I think. Do you have sources that they did?
I'm nearly sure he was from Goliadz. It was easternmost territory of Russia. Easily could be attacked by Golden Horde.

Why do you think that Goliad' should be similar to other Balts genetically? I mean they most likely assimilated some local substrate.

**Lucas** · 02-13-2019, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Why do you think that Goliad' should be similar to other Balts genetically? I mean they most likely assimilated some local substrate.

I think it is the opposite. Goliadz was refugium of those Balts who lived in what is now north-central Russia. When Slavs (doesn't mater from what "homeland" but certainly located on the south-west) migrated in early Medieval to the north, in Novgorod direction (probably along Dneper), they halved Balt territory. Those on the west persisted, those on the east gradually were assimilated by East-Slavic tribes.

Or there are theories that Goliadz people migrated after East Slavic expansion to central Russia???

**~~Karkurdu~~** · 02-13-2019, 03:05 PM

"Golden Horde European"

**Not a Cop** · 02-13-2019, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by LukaszM

I think it is the opposite. Goliadz was refugium of those Balts who lived in what is now north-central Russia. When Slavs (doesn't mater from what "homeland" but certainly located on the south-west) migrated in early Medieval to the north, in Novgorod direction (probably along Dneper), they halved Balt territory. Those on the west persisted, those on the east gradually were assimilated by East-Slavic tribes.

Or there are theories that Goliadz people migrated after East Slavic expansion to central Russia???

I haven't read much on Goliadz, but as far as i know we have a lot of skulls and eventually we will have dna sequensed i think.

It's obious fact as far as i understand that Goliadz was Baltic, however i have doubts that they would be baltic-like autosomally, most likely they have assimilated some people along the way.

**Leto** · 02-13-2019, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

I haven't read much on Goliadz, but as far as i know we have a lot of skulls and eventually we will have dna sequensed i think.

It's obious fact as far as i understand that Goliadz was Baltic, however i have doubts that they would be baltic-like autosomally, most likely they have assimilated some people along the way.

It's a fucking shame there are so few ancient and medieval samples from Russia. I mean come on, they even managed to extract DNA from bones in places like India or Israel and the Russian climate is much more conducive to DNA preservation.

**~~Cumansky~~** · 02-13-2019, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Karkurdu

"Golden Horde European"

Yooooo my Hakan, can you use your world record low IQ to answer this question..

Why I have more Turkic % than a lot of Turks? If you are so called originals?

Capitalizing off Peterski retardedness is all you good at

**Smaug** · 02-13-2019, 08:08 PM

Galindian, possibly. Still, he was very distant from his homeland.

**~~Ryuk~~** · 02-13-2019, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Cumansky

Yooooo my Hakan, can you use your world record low IQ to answer this question..

Why I have more Turkic % than a lot of Turks? If you are so called originals?

Capitalizing off Peterski retardedness is all you good at

Are you Slav or Romania right?
If so, you can't be more "Turkic" than a Turk.

Remember,there is no special genetic marker for the Turkic component,and the best way to understand a person's Turkic origin is to look at the components of eastern Asia and Siberia.

If you share your gedmatch results, we can see it