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    Default Russians/Ukrainians genetically the same.

    Pretty vanilla article but nice read. I want to add I realize there are differences now in culture and in language. This is about genetics.

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/qu...ysis-confirms/
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    South russians and ukrainians can be same, but north russians are different thing.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15974299

    Many north russian is just slavized finno-ugrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    South russians and ukrainians can be same, but north russians are different thing.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15974299

    Many north russian is just slavized finno-ugrian.
    I have a lot of Slav, Finn, and Turkic but my Y is Slavic R1a1a. These are my average IBD hits per population and these are my highest hits as far as modern populations.

    Finnish 6.9837311
    Saami 6.8176184
    Russian_Central 6.3129655
    Cossack_Kuban 6.3128055
    Karelian 5.547862
    Irish 5.422011
    Ukrainian_East 5.1333935
    Ukrainian_North 5.0581372
    Russian_North 4.5513911

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    Even Ukrainians aren't same people. West Ukrainians are different from rest of Ukies (those close to south Russians for sure). Northern Russians are mixed with Finns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    I have a lot of Slav, Finn, and Turkic but my Y is Slavic R1a1a.
    Your Avatar name is 100% right. Latin and Slavic are very close to each other. Even genetically Balkan Slavs are overlapping with Italians and Romanians. You can see that pattern right through Ukraine and south Russia.


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    I can say nothing about genetics, but judging by appearance, if we exclude so called Southern Russians who are actually Russified Ukrainians then Russians and Ukrainians are very different in looks. At least I can see difference instantly. And for example the Russian person from Nizhny Novgorod looks much closer to Finno Ugric Mordvin or even Volga Tatar than to Ukrainian from say Kharkov let alone to Ukrainian from Western part of Ukraine.

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    Russians are whiter. Even if more Siberian shifted, and not all. Saw some so exotic Ukrainians that look like Turks and hard-core Balkanites. You won't find Russians like that.

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    Ukrainians and Russians have some differences in phenotype, but genetically, Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are quite homogenous group, despite being scattered on such big territory.

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    Except Northeast Russian,yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsen_ View Post
    I can say nothing about genetics, but judging by appearance, if we exclude so called Southern Russians who are actually Russified Ukrainians then Russians and Ukrainians are very different in looks. At least I can see difference instantly. And for example the Russian person from Nizhny Novgorod looks much closer to Finno Ugric Mordvin or even Volga Tatar than to Ukrainian from say Kharkov let alone to Ukrainian from Western part of Ukraine.
    Russified Ukrainians? Ukraine is the newer nation, so Ukrainians would be Ukrainianized southern Russians if anything.

    And it's weird for you to treat northern Russians as the "original Russians" when they're the ones that have less Slavic and more Uralic admixture than their southern counterparts.

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