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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    In Galicia Argentina is known as the 5th galician province because of the size of the diáspora.

    https://www.clarin.com/sociedad/buen...1d-9ACpYx.html
    They talk galician? Which is closely to castilian spanish, galician spanish or portuguese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    In Galicia Argentina is known as the 5th galician province because of the size of the diáspora.

    https://www.clarin.com/sociedad/buen...1d-9ACpYx.html
    Exactly. In 1910, Argentina had more Galicians than Galicia itself, and Buenos Aires was the largest Galician city, with 150,000 Galicians. Bear in mind that the most populated city of Galicia had just 60,000 inhabitants.

    Quote Originally Posted by CostaRicaBall View Post
    They talk galician? Which is closely to castilian spanish, galician spanish or portuguese?
    Most Galician immigrants were poor peasants from rural Galicia, so they had a poor knowledge of Spanish and communicated with each other in Galician.

    I think the language is halfway between Portuguese and Spanish, so at least for Spanish speakers it’s pretty easy to catch. Sometimes I tune in the Galician TV channel and watch the news, and I get 90% of what they say. Maybe it’s because people on TV speak more clearily, but still it’s pretty similar. On the written form it’s almost 100% mutually intelligible with Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Canarians, Galicians, and Portuguese

    Indeed, when I lived in Venezuela (not sure today, since many middle to upper class Venezuelans have emigrated) nearly in all middle class apartment buildings in Caracas, the caretakers of the building (who always lived in an apartment in the ground floor) were a family of Portuguese or Galician origin.

    Just watch a panoramic picture of Caracas, and see how many thousands of apartment buildings you can see.

    And in nearly all bakeries, and in many supermarkets (not only in Caracas, but also in the interior of the country), the proprietaries and many of the workers were/are of Portuguese origin. So go and figure.

    Because of that I grew up associating Portuguese with building caretakers and bakers, lol
    Lol dude, the figure of the Portuguese baker is almost universal in Brazil. Bakery itself is a profession only those born in Portugal were responsible for 100 years ago.
    My great-grandmother (from Trás-os-Montes) was always upset with this stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Lol dude, the figure of the Portuguese baker is almost universal in Brazil. Bakery itself is a profession only those born in Portugal were responsible for 100 years ago.
    My great-grandmother (from Trás-os-Montes) was always upset with this stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco94 View Post

    Most Galician immigrants were poor peasants from rural Galicia, so they had a poor knowledge of Spanish and communicated with each other in Galician.

    I think the language is halfway between Portuguese and Spanish, so at least for Spanish speakers it’s pretty easy to catch. Sometimes I tune in the Galician TV channel and watch the news, and I get 90% of what they say. Maybe it’s because people on TV speak more clearily, but still it’s pretty similar. On the written form it’s almost 100% mutually intelligible with Spanish.
    did Galicians in Argentina speak in Galician?? wow, that is new for me. I have seen a lot of these Galicians returning to Spain, or just coming here to see their relatives, etc etc, and all of them spoke in Castilian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    did Galicians in Argentina speak in Galician?? wow, that is new for me. I have seen a lot of these Galicians returning to Spain, or just coming here to see their relatives, etc etc, and all of them spoke in Castilian.
    I've read somewhere that they had a poor knowledge of Spanish, so recently arrived immigrants communicated with each other in Galician, though they catched Spanish really fast in Argentina and Castillian became rapidly the dominant language among Galicians and their descendants.

    Coincidentally, I have two friends (brothers) who are half Galician (their mother is Uruguayan-born to Galician parents), and they moved two years ago to Spain, where they are living now with their cousins (A Coruńa). They don't speak a single word of Galician, just Castillian. In addition, I met their Galician cousin who lived here for a year, and he didn't speak a single word of Galician, or at least he never came up with the language.

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    Interesting enough, I think most Brazilians with Spanish background have probably Galician. At least 3 people I know with it has Galician background. I also know one who has Basque background.

    Anyway, no need to say the majority is Portuguese, specially from North.

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    Portugueses are also associated to Padarias in Brazil, in the past all padarias owners were portugueses, they made lots of cakes and breads, we even have a special portuguese sweet bread called paozinho de Belem.
    Last edited by Tenma de Pegasus; 02-19-2019 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Portugueses are also assiciated to Padarias in Brazil, in the past all padarias owners were portugueses, they made lots of cakes and breads, we even have a special portuguese sweet bread called paozinho de Belem.
    Yes, in the suburbs of Rio de Janeiro there are lot's of bakeries owned by Portuguese people and their descendants, one example that destroys the stereotype of rich white Brazilian of gated communities.

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    M Dias Branco is the greater food industry of Brazil, Dias Branco is also the richest family in Northern Brazil, they started their Empire with a padaria owned by their portuguese grandfather.
    Colonials dont have an padaria owner culture, but certainly the recent portuguese immigrants from XX century built a lot of bakerys here.

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